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Old Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:58pm
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Flop, Still a technical?

Even though I have neither seen or heard of it being called, I was wondering if the "Flop" being a techincal foul is still in the rule book? I read the whole book this Fall but do not remember seeing it?? Did I miss it or was it removed?
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:04pm
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Assuming you mean NFHS rules, then the reference is 10-3-6-f

It's a technical foul to fake being fouled. I've never seen it called, never seen a situation in either my game or any other game where it was even close enough for this to be called.
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:05pm
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that's it. I thought it actually used the word FLOP. That is what I was looking for, 10-6-3. thanks.
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:34pm
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I have seen the opportunity to call this probably 10 times. Most often happens when a defensive player trying to get a charge and throws himself to the floor. Happened once in a game I was calling. Team down 40, in the fourth. I passed on it. Coach down 40 said if this was a closer game you would've had to give me a T. He thought it was a charge. I told him there was absolutely no contact, and I could have given your kid a T for faking.
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:42pm
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I've called it, once.
There's a difference, imo, between faking and falsely anticipating being fouled.
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:34pm
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Faking a foul is a technical. That being said "flop" is a misnomer (sp?). If a kid chooses to absorb or avoid contact by falling to the ground this isn't faking a foul. Difference between embellishing and faking in my opinion. it becomes complicated when afterwards they are looking for/barking about a foul call but at that point if you want to t them up you can use inciting or unsportsmanlike as the reason.
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...the "Flop...
Here's a link to an article on the topic: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...TRlYThkZjcyMmI
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:10pm
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If a kid chooses to absorb or avoid contact by falling to the ground.........

This does not happen often.
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:11pm
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This does not happen often.
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Disagree.
Disagree with the fact that they fall away or why they fall away?
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Disagree with the fact that they fall away or why they fall away?
Disagree that it doesn't happen often for the reason stated.
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I'm saying it doesn't happen often for only the reasons stated. When a player intentionally falls to the floor avoiding/absorbing contact, it is usually for the purpose of imbellishment.
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Old Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:08pm
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I'm saying it doesn't happen often for only the reasons stated. When a player intentionally falls to the floor avoiding/absorbing contact, it is usually for the purpose of imbellishment.
I knew what you were saying when I disagreed the first time.
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This does not happen often.
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Disagree that it doesn't happen often for the reason stated.
That's what I thought you meant...but wanted to make sure.
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Somebody let me know when an official calls a T for a 3-point shooter faking being fouled.
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