Traveling

[APG]

Originally Posted by drofficial

Oh well. I guess we aren't gonne be on the same page here. This is not a "guess" or a "play that looks funny" or a play "that is hard to see" or a play "that requires slow motion to see." It happens everywhere all the time, in broad daylight, in regular speed, and it's plain to see. But we simply don't think of it as a violation because it is never called. And if it were, it would change the game of BB--and I belive for the better.

Maybe I will get someone who is tech savvy to help me put together a video.

Again, no one wants officials to start calling every single technical travel in a game which I'm convinced are some of these plays that you are wanting to see called....same as no one realistically wants 3 seconds called the very second the count hits 3.

[BktBallRef]

The only travel I see consistently ignored is in the low post with the big man's back to the basket. While holding the ball with both feet on the floor, he will step to the middle of the lane or the endline and then complete the move by stepping with the second foot (pivot foot). Traveling.

Shaquille O'Neal got away with it for years and it's trickled down to college and HS.

[Adam]

That one and the two pivot spin move are the ones I get fan grief for calling. More often than not, fans are wanting the whistle when I either can't tell or the player was clearly legal.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The only travel I see consistently ignored is in the low post with the big man's back to the basket. While holding the ball with both feet on the floor, he will step to the middle of the lane or the endline and then complete the move by stepping with the second foot (pivot foot). Traveling.
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Yep, I would have to agree that this is the travel that is missed most. And the travel that is incorrectly called the most is the one out on the perimeter when something "looks funny".

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Adam

That one and the two pivot spin move are the ones I get fan grief for calling. More often than not, fans are wanting the whistle when I either can't tell or the player was clearly legal.

And let's not forget the catch and two step to the 3 point arc.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Yep, I would have to agree that this is the travel that is missed most. And the travel that is incorrectly called the most is the one out on the perimeter when something "looks funny".

My pet peeve is the travel that is called when the player isn't HOLDING the ball.

[BillyMac]

When asked, many officials point to the block/charge as their most difficult call. Although the "surprise" block/charge is still a difficult call for me, it's the travel, or no travel, call that is, by far, the most difficult call for me. Block/charge is in a distant second place.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

My pet peeve is the travel that is called when the player isn't HOLDING the ball.

Huge pet peeve of mine as well. I hate that call as it clearly does not understand the premise of traveling in the first place, player control.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Huge pet peeve of mine as well. I hate that call as it clearly does not understand the premise of traveling in the first place, player control.

Peace

Got to agree 100 percent with you and BBR...makes it especially tough if you have a partner that calls this a travel, and then when the same play happens you correctly no call the play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by APG

Got to agree 100 percent with you and BBR...makes it especially tough if you have a partner that calls this a travel, and then when the same play happens you correctly no call the play.

Even worse is the play in front of you that you no-call and your partner comes across and gets.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The only travel I see consistently ignored is in the low post with the big man's back to the basket. While holding the ball with both feet on the floor, he will step to the middle of the lane or the endline and then complete the move by stepping with the second foot (pivot foot). Traveling.

Shaquille O'Neal got away with it for years and it's trickled down to college and HS.

Though they only got about to actually changing the wording in the rule book around 2008-2009, the move you describe (ball gathered with with foot on the floor, step with the opposite foot, then step again with the other foot) has been legal by interpretation in the NBA during a lot of Shaq's career, if I remember correctly. Definitely a travel at the lower levels.