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Old Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:50pm
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You guys can't realize how difficult it is for me to agree, to even partially agree, with Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Billy

I know you say that with a smile, .

MTD, Sr.


P.S. You didn't wish this bald old geezer Happy Birthday yesterday. You have to start reading the bottom of the Forum Home Page every morning.
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Old Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:01pm
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Now here is the real question?

Do other official's associations call these admin T's.... I have been in one game where we had a T ... The starting lineup was not in until the National Anthem and the opposing coach was complaining.... We had even talked to the offending team at about 8 minute left and they did not fix it then...


I know we have this rule but practically Im not sure it makes much difference
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Old Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:04pm
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Now here is the real question?

Do other official's associations call these admin T's.... I have been in one game where we had a T ... The starting lineup was not in until the National Anthem and the opposing coach was complaining.... We had even talked to the offending team at about 8 minute left and they did not fix it then...


I know we have this rule but practically Im not sure it makes much difference
You can choose to enforce whatever rule you want to. If it comes down to it you don't have a pot to piss in if you get called on it, and you have no argument. Common sense is a rules enforcement's best friend.
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Old Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:08pm
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Hank Zaborniak of the OhioHSAA.

I discovered this discrepency in the two Casebook Plays in early October and had planned to send an email to Hank Zaborniak. For those who do not know who Hank is. Hank was until the middle of October an Assistant Commissioner of the OhioHSAA. When Hank resigned his position with the OhioHSAA he had to step down as Chairman of the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee even though his term was going to end at the end of the 2012-13 school year. Therefore, I have sent an email to Peter Webb. Peter is the State Basketball Rules Interpreter for the Maine Principals' Association, as well as the State Rules Intepreter for IAABO. Petere has a long association with the NFHS Rules Committee and if there is anyone in the country that can give us the correct ruling it is he.

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Old Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:28pm
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P.S. You didn't wish this bald old geezer Happy Birthday yesterday. .
And neither of you wished this old geezer Happy Birthday last Saturday. BTW - I'm an old geezer but I'm not bald......yet.

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Old Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:49pm
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bktball - I appreciate your flippant response. I'm just trying to figure out why, when there is an explicit ruling, what does a discussion solve?
What does any discussion on this forum solve? It's a point that a longtime member of the forum posted about. If you don't want to discuss it, then don't. But it seems that's not the case. So I guess the real question is, why are you still discussing it?

And yes, there's an explicit ruling. In fact, there are two of them and the "Comment" creates a contradiction.
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Old Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:03am
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I took it as a rule change being announced with a new case play ruling.
I did not bother to check if the previous ruling was still in the book as MTD did.

I don't care which way the NFHS does it as long as it picks one.
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Old Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:21pm
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What does any discussion on this forum solve?
The NFHS has an administrator monitor this Forum twenty-four, seven. He's glued to his computer monitor and reads every word that we post. He forwards our complaints, and recommendations, to the NFHS editor, who carefully weighs our opinions and makes rule changes, caseplay interpretations, and Points of Emphasis, based on what is discussed here on the Forum. Of course, everybody already knows that.
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Old Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:43pm
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The NFHS has an administrator monitor this Forum twenty-four, seven. He's glued to has computer monitor and reads every word that we post...
They also have insiders acting as agents to covertly identify spelling mistakes and poor English grammar in hastily composed responses...

Shhhhh! Be aware! He's lurking and reading.






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Old Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:48pm
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They also have insiders acting as agents to covertly identify spelling mistakes, and poor English grammar, in hastily composed responses.
Is that what the guys in the black helicopters are doing, identifying spelling mistakes, and poor English grammar? I've always wondered about the purpose of their mission. Would it help if I covered my computer monitor with tin foil?

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Old Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:36pm
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And neither of you wished this old geezer Happy Birthday last Saturday. BTW - I'm an old geezer but I'm not bald......yet.



Happy Birthday Mark!!

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Old Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:21pm
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Bring it back on topic fellas.
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Old Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:49pm
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Bring it back on topic fellas.
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.
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Old Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:26pm
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if post #25 is on topic, then yes.
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Old Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:12am
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Bring it back on topic fellas.

Johnny;

As my boys say, take a chill pill. Sometimes we forget and take ourselves too seriously. It will get back on topic soon enough.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. I am the one who started this thread and I don't have problems with the posts so far, except with the people who don't agree with me, .
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