Multiple free throw violations (part 2)

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

So it's still considered a double violation, but with a different penalty than the normal, average, "garden variety", double violation? Interesting. I never thought of it in that manner. I've been "schooled".

It is not a double violation..that would result in some consequence other than the shooter getting a substitute throw.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

It is not a double violation..that would result in some consequence other than the shooter getting a substitute throw.

Since there's no definition in the book for "double violation" you both might be right.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Since there's no definition in the book for "double violation" you both might be right.

Smarty pants.

Fine...simultaneous violation.

Although double violations are talked about in the case book.

[rfp]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If A1 "shot an airball" but "the ball went in" then we have bigger issues than deciding on the correct FT enforcement.

I guess which violation does matter after all in my sitch!

So, yes, A-1 steps on the line and violates. The disconcertion is what was throwing me, since usually if the balls goes in you would ignore the disconcertion. But since A-1 violated you can't count the basket. So you have a simultaneous violation that's treated differently than it usually is, as BillyMac points out. So, it's an unusual case.

Thanks!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by rfp

I guess which violation does matter after all in my sitch!

So, yes, A-1 steps on the line and violates. The disconcertion is what was throwing me, since usually if the balls goes in you would ignore the disconcertion. But since A-1 violated you can't count the basket. So you have a simultaneous violation that's treated differently than it usually is, as BillyMac points out. So, it's an unusual case.

Thanks!

It's not a simultaneous violation -- that's penalty 3.

You had penalty 4.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

FED 9-1 PENALTY 4c. If a violation by a free thrower follows disconcertion by an opponent, a substitute free throw shall be awarded.

9.1.3H, quoted above, says otherwise.

Never mind, I see the difference now.

P90X is affecting my brain.