Questions for the Forum

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

BINGO! ...and this is a BIG pre-game disucussion. (3-Whistle) Who is going to take the big block/charge in the key? The T/C that started with the player going to the hoop? The L that has the "play" right in front of him, and probably had the secondary defender get in a position to "take the charge"?

We usually go old school around these parts...if it's coming at you as L...you get first shot at the call...while the T/C may come up with a fist...they are patient with the signal. (DO NOT WANT A BLARGE)

When I am Lead I usually don't have a "patient whistle" as discussed in the OP concerning a block/charge. I see the play, I come out with a big "BOOM", a signal and away we go.

IMO, L should have a patient whistle and, more importantly, a patient call / signal on this play.

It's more difficult to do (for whatever reason) as L than as T/C. So, just because T/C hold is no reason for L to jump in early (or "get the first shot at the call").

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Smitty

You don't actually yell "BOOM", do you?

Actually, he yells "Boom goes the dynamite".

[tref]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

When I am Lead I usually don't have a "patient whistle" as discussed in the OP concerning a block/charge. I see the play, I come out with a big "BOOM", a signal and away we go.

Ahhh 300+ views later & I finally get an answer to "the question."
Thanks!!
Patient whistle is your practice on SDF plays to the basket, but you make a strong, immediate decision on B/C plays as the L. Same here, I dont think those two plays are in the same category.

The reason for the question was because I had a conversation with an official about me allowing the defender to fall to the ground before blowing my whistle. Keep in mind this was a transition outlet from the division line to the FT line extended (no dribble) basket attack. My partners had not crossed the division line yet.

My thoughts were, I refereed the defense & never had him obtaining LGP prior to the contact... so what am I waiting for???

I guess its all about who one is learning from. In the womens game I know the L allows the T/C first crack, but the principle is opposite in the mens game.

[Jay R]

Originally Posted by Smitty

You don't actually yell "BOOM", do you?

I only say boom when I call a T

[Jay R]

A colleague of mine often says patient whistle on the ball and quick whistle off the ball. I'm not sure I agree but I've heard it.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Smitty

You don't actually yell "BOOM", do you?

...hey, I'm from the Pacific Northwest...(Legion of "BOOM"!)

...and to answer your question, Yes on many B/C calls and many Ts, I give an emphatic "Boom"... with no apologies. Sorry, if you don't like it...

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's more difficult to do (for whatever reason) as L.

...Exactly! At this point in my career I don't need "difficult". If we were doing a game we would pre-game this and decide, between our crew, how to handle it. I would suggest, to you, that I am "weak" (OK, maybe stubborn) in holding my call as L on the Block/Charge and to watch out for me.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...hey, I'm from the Pacific Northwest...(Legion of "BOOM"!)

I worked in the Pacific Northwest for several years - never heard anyone say "Boom".

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...and to answer your question, Yes on many B/C calls and many Ts, I give an emphatic "Boom"... with no apologies. Sorry, if you don't like it...

Nice contradiction. I don't like it, but I also don't expect you to care.

[tref]

Although I'd like to see how the "BOOM" thing goes, I think we have to express our individual personalities on the court, within reason of course.
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