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Old Sat Oct 06, 2012, 06:55am
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Help with NCAA men play please...

So I thought of this yesterday...what would you have?

NCAA Men rules...
A1 driving to basket, shot clock running down, drives past B1. B2 sets up in LGP outside of restricted arc. The following occurs in this order...

1). A1 releases ball on a shot attempt...
2.) then the shot clock horn goes off...
3.) then shot attempt hits nothing (airball) and it's obvious shot will not go in or hit anything...
4.) then we have A1 crash into B2 before the ball hits the floor...

Now my question is, do we have a shot clock violation (horn and airball before contact) or a foul on A1? Say B is in the bonus...shot clock violation or B2 shooting 1 & 1, since ball was completely out of A1's hands before contact?

Any rule/case reference would be greatly appreciated!
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Old Sat Oct 06, 2012, 10:35am
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first year of college comming up. still trying to wrap my head around some of the rules. lol
he is still considered to be an airborne shooter right? If B1 was called for a block,A1 would shoot. so I am going with B1 get his 1&1, charge foul on A1
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Old Sat Oct 06, 2012, 12:38pm
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I'd guess that the shooter was back to the floor long before the ball fell back below the rim....gravity works on both the same.

Since the horn had sounded and time expired, the ball is dead the moment it is obvious that the try will be unsuccessful.

If, by some strange twist of physics, A1 floats along and crashes into a player after the try has ended and time expired, A1 could be called for a foul and it could put the defender on the line for 1+1 since the foul occurred after the release. A1 remains liable for fouling (and being fouled) after a release until they return to the floor.

This is practically impossible, however, to have the shot already missed AND to have the shot clock expire AND to have the shooter still in the air AND for them to crash into a defender who is outside of the arc.

All of that said, just call the shot clock violation.
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