NCAA Play

Uncle Ernie · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 29, 2003, 02:06pm

First series of Extra Periods. A TRY B3. A is attempting a two point conversion. A is in a Illegal Formation at the snap. During the play QB12 is intercepted by B56 in the endzone. During the return, B60 commits a flagrant personal foul and B56 is tackled at the 50.

Which rules take precedence? Extra Period rules or TRY rules?

MD Longhorn · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 29, 2003, 02:21pm

Which rules do you have that are in conflict.

Seems clear (in NCAA, at least), this is simply an unsuccessful try.

Uncle Ernie · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 29, 2003, 02:25pm

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Originally posted by mbcrowder
Which rules do you have that are in conflict.

Seems clear (in NCAA, at least), this is simply an unsuccessful try.

Not really mb....

This is a try with offsetting penalities with at least one of the penalties occurring after Team B has possession.

The try rules say that this is simply a offsetting situation and that the try is over. However, the EP rules say that DB fouls, live ball enforced as dead ball fouls and flagrant personal fouls are enforced from the succeeding play...just wanting to know which one to enforce.

UE

TXMike · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 29, 2003, 02:38pm

The EP rules also address offsetting fouls when one occurs post B possession. Play is over. Move on. Eject the flagrant fouler.

MD Longhorn · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 29, 2003, 02:47pm

I see. (Better question than I'd thought when I first read it).

It seems to me that the rules regarding the try take precedence. The rules regarding penalties during the XP apply to actual plays. So I THINK we simply have an unsuccessful try here.

Where's our PSK experts? Is this a PSK situation? Does B have to decline A's penalty in order to make the try unsuccessful, thus allowing A to enforce the flagrant on the succeeding play (i.e. B's 1st offensive play).

Reading the NCAA rules, it sounds like the penalties are simply declined by rule, and the try is unsuccessful.

Is it different in NF as opposed to NCAA?

TXMike · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 29, 2003, 02:55pm

PSK does not apply in EP's nor during a try (NCAA)

seanireland · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 29, 2003, 03:20pm

Is it different in NF as opposed to NCAA? [/B][/QUOTE]

NFHS: On a try, as soon as B gets possession, ball is dead. In OT, we play from the 10 yard line. Again, if B gets possession, ball is dead and series of downs ends for A.