NBA finalizing flopping procedures

[APG]

NBA finalizing procedures that will penalize players for flopping - ESPN

ELIZABETH, N.J. -- The NBA is about to act in hopes of stopping the floppers.

Spokesman Tim Frank said Thursday the league is finalizing procedures to deal with flopping, the art of falling down when little or no contact was made in an effort to trick referees into calling a foul.

Frank said the competition committee met two weeks ago and discussed plans that would go in place this season. Commissioner David Stern believes too many players are deceiving referees by flopping and has been seeking a way to properly penalize them.

The procedures likely will involve a postgame review of the play by the league office, rather than an official calling an infraction during the game, Frank said. Players likely would be fined if the league determined they flopped.

[hoopguy]

As a fan, I would like to see the penanlty be;

1. Fine the player but as a percentage of pay. If a guy makes who 1 million gets fined 10k, then a guy making 20million gets fined 200k.

2. Keep track of flops and at a certain point make the player miss games. Like they do with technical fouls.

[APG]

Originally Posted by hoopguy

As a fan, I would like to see the penanlty be;

1. Fine the player but as a percentage of pay. If a guy makes who 1 million gets fined 10k, then a guy making 20million gets fined 200k.

2. Keep track of flops and at a certain point make the player miss games. Like they do with technical fouls.

This is what is more than likely going to go into effect save for fining a percentage of pay. The league isn't going to fine a player $10,000...much less $200,000. To put it in perspective, a player is fined $2,000 for each T received up to 4...then $3,000 up to 8...$5,000 up to 12...with a 13+ being $5,000 plus a one game suspension and and addtional game for every two after 13.

[jeremy341a]

So how much effort does a player have to exert before it is ok to be knocked down by another player without being fined?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

So how much effort does a player have to exert before it is ok to be knocked down by another player without being fined?

Despite the wishy-washy banter of some here in the past, we all know when a player is trying to embellish the contact and make it look like there was more contact than there really was. It really isn't that hard to tell.

All that needs to be done is to determine if a player was knocked backwards (even if he let himself be knocked backwards) vs. throwing himself backwards.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Despite the wishy-washy banter of some here in the past . . .
All that needs to be done is to determine if a player was knocked backwards (even if he let himself be knocked backwards) vs. throwing himself backwards.

Given that NBE officials are the best of the best, there'd be no reason any of them could possibly, given proper court positioning, miss a "faking being fouled" call if it needed to be called. Now, I certainly don't want to be guilty of "wishy-washy banter", but it sounds like an issue of what's there isn't called when it occurs, right? This is a no-brainer call for those who choose to call it when it happens.
On the other hand, this could only by speculation on my part since I haven't viewed a second of NBA basketball since 1994 or whenever it was that Charles Barkley almost led the Suns to a title prior to his advancement to cunning play-by-play announcer.

(PS: BMac, check your PM)

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Despite the wishy-washy banter of some here in the past, we all know when a player is trying to embellish the contact and make it look like there was more contact than there really was. It really isn't that hard to tell.

All that needs to be done is to determine if a player was knocked backwards (even if he let himself be knocked backwards) vs. throwing himself backwards.

I agree, so it there any purpose in making this a offense which warrents a fine? If they flop then no foul, if they are really knocked over then foul. Seems it doesn't need to go any further than this.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by APG

This is what is more than likely going to go into effect save for fining a percentage of pay. The league isn't going to fine a player $10,000...much less $200,000. To put it in perspective, a player is fined $2,000 for each T received up to 4...then $3,000 up to 8...$5,000 up to 12...with a 13+ being $5,000 plus a one game suspension and and additional game for every two after 13.

NBA announces anti-flopping rule

[jeremy341a]

Seems harsh compared to the fines for T's

You must get 16 technical fouls to pay $5k while the 2nd flop has the same fee attached.

[APG]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Seems harsh compared to the fines for T's

You must get 16 technical fouls to pay $5k while the 2nd flop has the same fee attached.

On the 9th T, a player is fined $5,000 and on the 13 T and ever two after (15, 17, 19, etc.), a player is suspended (without pay) one game plus the $5,000.

I do agree the League is being a little more heavy handed with "floppers" because there's been a lot more fanfare and outcry from fans...especially with the really bad embellishments being replayed on ESPN hundreds of times a day.