A Way to Look at "Travelling"

[Freddy]

Ran across this today. Got me to thinking. Have you heard of this before? Is this a valid perspective? Is there any merit to looking at it like this?

"Look at TRAVELLING not so much an error made by a weak athlete, as a mistake forced by a strong defense."

Seems to open up, for discussion purposes at least, a topic or two that might be worth exploring.

Anybody currently use this manner of thinking on the subject?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Freddy

"Look at TRAVELLING not so much an error made by a weak athlete, as a mistake forced by a strong defense."

If accepted as valid . . .
A. Might this prompt us to pass on the "ticky-tac" travelling calls that really don't impact play in any significant way?
B. Might this way of thinking be more in according with"officiating the defense"?
C. Might this especially reward the defense for good, pressure play?
D. Would this prompt us to, for sure, catch those travelling violations that would otherwise result in a real advantage over the defense?
E. Could this manner of thinking cause us to miss calls we really should be getting?

Your comment/input/critique invited as I ruminate over this concept.

[just another ref]

I think I speak for us all when I say: "What the hell?"

[JRutledge]

I have never heard this statement before and honestly not sure what the point of this statement is in the first place. I just want to call the obvious ones, not the ones were I have to look at slow motion replay to tell if it actually was a travel.

Peace

[Adam]

I agree with Jeff. It seems like some grand philosophical point that means nothing. It could be used to justify any number of poor officiating philosophies.

[stiffler3492]

Sounds like a point that belongs at a coaching clinic.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Freddy

If accepted as valid . . .

I appreciate and agree with the responses, except maybe the first one.
This concept is not really valid. Too complex an idea to be of any real, practical use.
Thanx for the reactions.

[Lotto]

Originally Posted by Freddy

"Look at TRAVELLING not so much an error made by a weak athlete, as a mistake forced by a strong defense."

My philosophy: Look at TRAVELLING as occurring when a player holding the ball moves a foot or both feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits described in Rule 4-72 of the 2011-13 NCAA rulebook.

[tref]

I thought we were talking live ball plays to the basket, going away from the official.

Originally Posted by tref

So many times guys call a travel based on the excess movement of the feet, with no look (backs & butts) at the status of the ball.

Apparently others did too.

Originally Posted by Lotto

My philosophy: Look at TRAVELLING as occurring when a player holding the ball moves a foot or both feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits described in Rule 4-72 of the 2011-13 NCAA rulebook.

but ummm, okay.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Ran across this today. Got me to thinking. Have you heard of this before? Is this a valid perspective? Is there any merit to looking at it like this?

"Look at TRAVELLING not so much an error made by a weak athlete, as a mistake forced by a strong defense."

Seems to open up, for discussion purposes at least, a topic or two that might be worth exploring.

Anybody currently use this manner of thinking on the subject?

To answer your question, I don't deeply use this manner of thinking for this subject. However, there are actions by Team B that are keys for a possible travel.

Eg: B3 knows they are too late to intercept an outlet pass. Instead, B3 positions herself such that ball carrier A3 will be surprised when A3 turns to start dribbling upcourt. B3's defensive tactic could alert an official that B3 may have a strategic position advantage causing A3 to travel.

This is similar to B3 setting a trap just across the DL. Team A now has a short court because they can't go back past the DL.

A football analogy is if B is in poor defensive position, you might see an arm bar. If B is in great position, not only may you not see an arm bar, you might even see a touchback.

I don't believe that the bolded statement is an "end all and be all" to officiate traveling, but I do believe that smart defense can cause offensive mistakes.

[Scrapper1]

Shouldn't there be a traveling quiz posted in the near future? I think it's been missing for a couple seasons.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Shouldn't there be a traveling quiz posted in the near future? I think it's been missing for a couple seasons.

Traveling Quiz...

1. Where would you most like to go....
A. Aruba
B. Belgium
C. Croatia
D. Disneyword

2. What is your preferred mode of transportation for long trips....
A. Airplane
B. Boat
C. Car
D. Donkey

Is that what you had in mind?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Shouldn't there be a traveling quiz posted in the near future? I think it's been missing for a couple seasons.

Only a travel agent would ask.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by bktballref

only a travel agent would ask.

lol!!!

[BktBallRef]

Here ya go!

TRAVELING QUIZ

True OR False

1. A passport is not needed to take a cruise.

2. Real vanilla flavoring is better than imitation vanilla flavoring.

3. Shore excursions are more expensive if purchased through the cruise line.

4. Prescription drugs can be purchased over the counter in Cozumel.

5. Jamaica is absolutely the worst Carribean island cruise ship port.


This quiz courtesy of Pioneer Valley Cruise Planners.