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Can you be less vague? Do you mean sticking his elbows out to prevent a player from getting around a screen?
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And forget about "cause contact" for determining who a foul is on. Causing contact is not necessarily illegal. What is illegal is being in an illegal position or moving in a non-permissible direction when contact occurs, regardless of who caused it.
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This is seen alot on Illegal screens. Player sets screen with elbows extended beyond body and clips the side of the body (or possibly the head) of defender as he attempts to avoid the screener. Can't think of any other instance where you would see this type of play.
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It makes sense if the stationary player doesn't have legal position.
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chinning the ball
the sit i see is chinning the ball and having your elbows our to your side. Not moving and a defender tries to reach in and hits his head on your elbow on his way in to reach for the ball. thoughts.
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Officiating the on ball matchup & beyond is the key to knowing that the screener is illegal before contact occurs. Quote:
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Setting a screen with elbows high and wide is not a legal position, so any contact on those elbows is illegal. This is similar to a defensive player who takes a stationary position with one foot on an out-of-bounds boundary line. The position is not legal, so any contact that occurs is illegal contact caused by the defender. |
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Shooters cause contact all the time when they catch a defender out of position....maybe the arms are not vertical and the shooter ensures they cause contact in hopes of getting a foul (sometimes deserved, sometimes not).
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Then the elbows were not stationary. :/
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Right. Elbows can be stationary, moving, or excessively swinging.
Onthe OP, it might be elbows out on a screen (like a blocking position in footbball), or an arm held out to prevent a defender from fronting, etc. |
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