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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:39am
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Called a Block on a drive to the basket in da Lane. Coach asks why is it a block.

Told him your guy did not have LGP and was not planted.

I know the "Planted" is not in the book..but does it describe how this call is made?

Help with explaining BLARGE to a coach...

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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:15am
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Called a Block on a drive to the basket in da Lane. Coach asks why is it a block.

Told him your guy did not have LGP and was not planted.

I know the "Planted" is not in the book..but does it describe how this call is made?

Help with explaining BLARGE to a coach...

Thanks and stay cool!
Never use "planted" because it doesn't matter. "He was late to the spot" or "he was moving into the shooter" both work better without perpetuating rule myths.
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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:38am
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Called a Block on a drive to the basket in da Lane. Coach asks why is it a block.

Told him your guy did not have LGP and was not planted.

I know the "Planted" is not in the book..but does it describe how this call is made?

Help with explaining BLARGE to a coach...

Thanks and stay cool!
You were good until "and was not planted." If he wanted more then, as Snaqwells said, explain why he didn't have LGP ("he was late," "he moved forward into the offensive player.").

With the blarge: are you trying to explain why you and your partner had different calls, why you decided to go with one call instead of the other or why the decision was to call a double foul?
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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:02pm
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The Infamous Blarge ...

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With the blarge: are you trying to explain why you and your partner had different calls, why you decided to go with one call instead of the other or why the decision was to call a double foul?
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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:03pm
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NFHS Double Foul ...

4.19.8 SITUATION C: A1 drives for a try and jumps and releases the ball.
Contact occurs between A1 and B1 after the release and before airborne shooter
A1 returns one foot to the floor. One official calls a blocking foul on B1 and the
other official calls a charging foul on A1. The try is (a) successful, or (b) not successful.
RULING: Even though airborne shooter A1 committed a charging foul, it
is not a player-control foul because the two fouls result in a double personal foul.
The double foul does not cause the ball to become dead on the try. In (a), the goal
is scored; play is resumed at the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for
Team B from anywhere along the end line. In (b), the point of interruption is a try
in flight; therefore the alternating-possession procedure is used. (4-36)
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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:06pm
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Called a Block on a drive to the basket in da Lane. Coach asks why is it a block.

Told him your guy did not have LGP and was not planted.

I know the "Planted" is not in the book..but does it describe how this call is made?

Help with explaining BLARGE to a coach...

Thanks and stay cool!
Was the offensive player airborne?
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Oh, I know what the result is supposed to be (choice 3). What I don't know is exactly why he's asking and/or what he and his partner ended up doing
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Sorry for not being clear

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Oh, I know what the result is supposed to be (choice 3). What I don't know is exactly why he's asking and/or what he and his partner ended up doing
Sorry for not being clear...Looking to explain a block to a coach who thought its was player control.
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Was the offensive player airborne?
Not Airbone..just a crash in lane
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Sorry for not being clear...Looking to explain a block to a coach who thought its was player control.
Ah, okay. The OP made it sound as though you were talking about two different plays. A blarge is you and your partner simultaneously calling a block/charge situation differently. What you're describing is the coach disagreeing with your call.

Answer is same as before: just tell him his player didn't have LGP then explain - in as few words as possible - why.
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Answer is same as before: just tell him his player didn't have LGP then explain - in as few words as possible - why.
Yep, without using such loaded words as "set" or "planted."
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Like others have said, don't use terms like "set" or "planted" as that can come back and bit you in the but when you have to call a charge even with the defender still moving.

"He was moving forward at the time of contact."
"He didn't beat the player to the spot."
etc.

In fact, in general, I find that discussions/explanations with coaches are a lot easier when you stick to officiating terms and philosophies.
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Like others have said, don't use terms like "set" or "planted" as that can come back and bit you in the but when you have to call a charge even with the defender still moving.

"He was moving forward at the time of contact."
"He didn't beat the player to the spot."
etc.

In fact, in general, I find that discussions/explanations with coaches are a lot easier when you stick to officiating terms and philosophies.

Good advice APG because being accurate confuses the heck out of them, .

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Just use "Coach, he had legal guarding position." If they do not know what that means then there is really not much you are going to explain to them after that if they are convinced you got the call right.

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Suggestion: A coach arguing a block/charge call should be the basketball equivalent of arguing balls and strikes and result in an automatic ejection.
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