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Old Mon Jun 25, 2012, 07:50pm
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So when your partner makes a call, and this is one of those occasional times when you don't say "good call" to your partner, and the coach disagrees with your partner's call, and then the coach, who has heard you say "good call" to your partner a few times earlier in the game, notes that you haven't said "good call" to your partner on this particular controversial call ...

Do you see where this bedtime story is going? I'll give you a hint. They all don't live happily ever after.
That's pretty ridiculous...toren says he gives "an occasional" good call comment, and you decide he is doing it all the time, except for once and that gives the coach ammunition. Ridiculous...

And for you and Camron - are there other things you are afraid to do or say on the court because of what a coach might think or say?

Like BNR said - you make an awesome call on the court with me, I will tell you it was an awesome call.

And to get back to Jeff's original post...I find that using or not using voice is quite often a matter of comfort level on the court. As the official gets more confident and comfortable on the court, they will begin using their voice more - which will lead to more confidence and more comfort.
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Old Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:56pm
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And for you and Camron - are there other things you are afraid to do or say on the court because of what a coach might think or say?

Not at all. I say things all the time they don't like and that I know they will not like. I just see no benefit in telling a partner "good call" and only see it as an opportunity to cause unnecessary trouble. Why invite trouble?

I also see it as a bit demeaning to my partner to give my approval of his/her calls on the court. I trust that they know it was a good call. If I have something to say to them about it, it will usually be in the locker room.
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Old Tue Jun 26, 2012, 12:07am
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Not at all. I say things all the time they don't like and that I know they will not like. I just see no benefit in telling a partner "good call" and only see it as an opportunity to cause unnecessary trouble. Why invite trouble?
I would take issue that it invites trouble. And since everything said is not for the coach's benefit, I am not so sure what trouble it brings.

This is one of those, "What works for you might not work for someone else."

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I also see it as a bit demeaning to my partner to give my approval of his/her calls on the court. I trust that they know it was a good call. If I have something to say to them about it, it will usually be in the locker room.
Again this might be that way depending on the kind of official you are working for or with. I know some officials look to certain experienced partners to give them some kind of approval and just like anything you have to know your partners. But having worked with some very experienced officials and some very inexperienced officials as well, never had anyone react to me badly for saying "good call." Then again I do not keep track of how many times I say this or even if I say it on a regular basis. We are a team and I would hope that we can share some stuff with a partner without egos being so damaged.

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Old Tue Jun 26, 2012, 06:07am
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He gives "an occasional" good call comment, and you decide he is doing it all the time, except for once and that gives the coach ammunition.
Actually, I never decided that he's doing it all the time. That's my point. He doesn't. He said that he only did it occasionally. When? Easy calls? Tough calls? Correct tough calls? Incorrect tough calls? Anybody who works with me will get his "props", and some criticism, if needed, during private moments, usually in the privacy of the dressing room, maybe on the court during timeouts, or between periods, but still private.
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