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Old Mon Jun 25, 2012, 09:41am
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Personally I find that being vocal in the first 2 min. or so of the game allows for alot less whistles through the course of the game. Expecially as L with the post play. Your voice helps set the tone and it helps to remind the players that we're there and were aware of whats going on.
That being said I sometimes see just the opposite, guys being too vocal. In the 3rd and 4th qtr talking about the same things they were talking about in the 1st. At some point they need to bang the kid so he realizes that the offensive action needs to stop.
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Personally I find that being vocal in the first 2 min. or so of the game allows for alot less whistles through the course of the game. Expecially as L with the post play. Your voice helps set the tone and it helps to remind the players that we're there and were aware of whats going on.
That being said I sometimes see just the opposite, guys being too vocal. In the 3rd and 4th qtr talking about the same things they were talking about in the 1st. At some point they need to bang the kid so he realizes that the offensive action needs to stop.
I am not referring to talking to kids or players to prevent fouls. I am talking about talking to partners to tell them what you just called or where to put the ball on a foul or violation. Even something has simple as using voice when reporting the foul. You are talking about something totally different than what I was referring to.

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I am not referring to talking to kids or players to prevent fouls. I am talking about talking to partners to tell them what you just called or where to put the ball on a foul or violation. Even something has simple as using voice when reporting the foul. You are talking about something totally different than what I was referring to.

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Definitely something I see with newer officials; normally accompanied by a soft whistle and fuzzy signals. Occasionally, a veteran will forget to let me know if we're doing FTs or a throw in, however.
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Old Mon Jun 25, 2012, 01:13pm
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I am not referring to talking to kids or players to prevent fouls. I am talking about talking to partners to tell them what you just called or where to put the ball on a foul or violation. Even something has simple as using voice when reporting the foul. You are talking about something totally different than what I was referring to.

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Oh ok. Sorry I must have misread the op. I find alot of newer guys struggle with communication. Thats something that I try to stress in the pre-game. Spot for throwins, shooting or floor foul, number of shooter, number of shots. All important things that guys should communicate about all game long.
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Oh ok. Sorry I must have misread the op. I find alot of newer guys struggle with communication. Thats something that I try to stress in the pre-game. Spot for throwins, shooting or floor foul, number of shooter, number of shots. All important things that guys should communicate about all game long.
No, I could have been more specific. I can see how you would be thinking one thing and I am thinking something else. Either way I just see a lot of officials that do not say anything when their voice would be welcomed or necessary.

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I am not referring to talking to kids or players to prevent fouls. I am talking about talking to partners to tell them what you just called or where to put the ball on a foul or violation. Even something has simple as using voice when reporting the foul. You are talking about something totally different than what I was referring to.

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+1. This is what I was talking about. Voice during dead balls is SOOOO underutilized.
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I am not referring to talking to kids or players to prevent fouls. I am talking about talking to partners to tell them what you just called or where to put the ball on a foul or violation. Even something has simple as using voice when reporting the foul. You are talking about something totally different than what I was referring to.

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+1. This is what I was talking about. Voice during dead balls is SOOOO underutilized.
Agree as well.

There are so many different types of talking....to partners, coaches, players. This type is too often underused.

Had partner last night, who is a fantastic official in every regard, not use his voice a time or two. It was summer league and some things were a bit casual (e.g., no need to do a full report since they were not tracking player fouls). But, on a couple of occasions, I had no idea what kind of FTs I was to be administering...1+1 (not shooting) or 2 (shooting)....the play was such that it could have been either one. I had to ask him what we had. Even if it seems obvious to you, your partners may or may not know all that they need to know about what you had...better to overdo it rather than put your partners in a bind.
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