Illegal Screen or Not

[Adam]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

An illegal screen, but not a big one - and no advantage gained.

Then it's not illegal; it's incidental contact.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Then it's not illegal; it's incidental contact.

do you have a problem with marginal contact vs incidental?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

do you have a problem with marginal contact vs incidental?

Marginal contact can still be a foul. By definition, incidental contact is not a foul.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

do you have a problem with marginal contact vs incidental?

Only insofaras "marginal" contact is not defined.

All contact is either incidental or illegal. Marginal contact is no different, it's still one or the other.

Marginal contact is nothing more than either:
a) Illegal contact that is close to being incidental.
or
b) Incidental contact that is close to being illegal.

I'm not sure what other useful definition of "marginal" there is, or if you mean something different by the term.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Only insofaras "marginal" contact is not defined.

All contact is either incidental or illegal. Marginal contact is no different, it's still one or the other.

Marginal contact is nothing more than either:
a) Illegal contact that is close to being incidental.
or
b) Incidental contact that is close to being illegal.

I'm not sure what other useful definition of "marginal" there is, or if you mean something different by the term.

You are right, but not every term is defined or rulebook based. But is very common to describe contact as marginal and marginal usually means there is no foul or wait to see if the contact affects the play. This was simply used to describe what probably should have not been called.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You are right, but not every term is defined or rulebook based. But is very common to describe contact as marginal and marginal usually means there is no foul or wait to see if the contact affects the play. This was simply used to describe what probably should have not been called.

Peace

I get that, and I don't have a problem with the word itself. I won't use it with coaches, however, because it doesn't mean anything. Others can probably use it to good effect.

For me, it's far easier to say the contact was incidental, or to tell a coach that "it didn't even slow your guy down, Coach."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I get that, and I don't have a problem with the word itself. I won't use it with coaches, however, because it doesn't mean anything. Others can probably use it to good effect.

For me, it's far easier to say the contact was incidental, or to tell a coach that "it didn't even slow your guy down, Coach."

I would have have used the term. Marginal means it is not definite either way. Then again I probably would not say either, I would just say I do not have a foul. Again, no right or wrong here.

Peace