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Old Fri Jun 15, 2012, 07:53am
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I am indeed talking about a two-whistle game. That's insane to me that any federation would want the T to stand tableside on FTs in a two-whistle setting.

Forget putting yourself in the line of fire of barking coaches. You'll get your share throughout the game regardless of where you're positioned. But having your back turned to the scorer and all of the subs is just stupid.
I personally like going tableside...the not being able to see subs/scorer situation is a non issue, because all one had to do is peek over the shoulder to see what needs to be seen and if you miss anything, there's nothing stopping the lead official from beckoning subs in. Texas has been going tableside in two man even before NFHS went to the mechanic.

As far as talking to coaches, I'd rather deal with coaches near me with a quiet word, then have a coach try and yell across the court. When NCAA-M moved their officials opposite after foul calls, I noticed (at least for TV games) that this happened a lot more often.
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Old Fri Jun 15, 2012, 07:55am
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Going tableside is all I know but I don't see the big deal about it. It is very rare I've had a coach get to the point of getting T'd up as a result of me being tableside and I think he would have gotten himself stuck anyways.
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Old Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:00am
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Going tableside is all I know but I don't see the big deal about it. It is very rare I've had a coach get to the point of getting T'd up as a result of me being tableside and I think he would have gotten himself stuck anyways.
Likewise...on it being all I've known and never really having issues with coaches.
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Old Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:16am
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I am indeed talking about a two-whistle game. That's insane to me that any federation would want the T to stand tableside on FTs in a two-whistle setting.

Forget putting yourself in the line of fire of barking coaches. You'll get your share throughout the game regardless of where you're positioned. But having your back turned to the scorer and all of the subs is just stupid.
I happen to prefer being table side as the calling official. We did that for a couple of years in three-man, but too many officials engaged the coaches too much rather than just when they needed to. I preferred it because it gave the coach a chance to ask the proper questions without yelling or delaying the game during free throws.

As for the T doing subs table-side. That's how it's done with three, and it's not a problem. Take a quick look before and after the last FT, then your eyes are on the play anyway. I don't think it's any harder to take one last glance from either side of the court after the final FT is made.
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Old Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:17am
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I'm teaching mine to signal "T". She's almost there and I think she has the ejection mechanic down more or less.
I'll bet she already knows the coach's mechanic for "what was that?"
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Old Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:29pm
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I'll bet she already knows the coach's mechanic for "what was that?"
Arms extended out perpendicular to the body, palms up, exasperated look on her face? Not quite yet...give her another year or so.
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As for the T doing subs table-side. That's how it's done with three, and it's not a problem. Take a quick look before and after the last FT, then your eyes are on the play anyway. I don't think it's any harder to take one last glance from either side of the court after the final FT is made.
Except in 2-man the Trail is supposed to be down watching the free throw shooter and a lot of officials stay way up high to deal with subs and never get down to where they belong.
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Old Fri Jun 15, 2012, 05:50pm
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Except in 2-man the Trail is supposed to be down watching the free throw shooter and a lot of officials stay way up high to deal with subs and never get down to where they belong.
Well that's just poor coaching.
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