I've got another ref question that I'm not sure is in the rulebook or not...

[ref3808]

As described, I have disconcertion.

As for "running at the legs" I suppose you could go with a technical for unsportsmanlike conduct, but it's a real stretch.

[DiscoHristo]

thanks.. all great answers

[tref]

Originally Posted by ref3808

As for "running at the legs" I suppose you could go with a technical for unsportsmanlike conduct, but it's a real stretch.

I'd like to see that & I would LOVE to hear the explaination to the coach!

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by tref

I'd like to see that & I would LOVE to hear the explaination to the coach!

Well, I had a situation several years ago where a defender occasionally would lower his head and fake as if to head-butt the airborne shooter in the groin sometimes causing the shooter to alter his shot. I told the player I considered that unsportsmanlike and it would be a T if done again. The head coach protested there is nothing in the rules prohibiting a player from doing that. I replied the action is clearly unsportsmanlike and any coach who teaches or allows his players to do that shouldn't be coaching. End of discussion and end of that tactic. I don't know if "running at the legs" is the same thing but it certainly isn't what most coaches would teach their players to do.

[tref]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Well, I had a situation several years ago where a defender occasionally would lower his head and fake as if to head-butt the airborne shooter in the groin sometimes causing the shooter to alter his shot. I told the player I considered that unsportsmanlike and it would be a T if done again. The head coach protested there is nothing in the rules prohibiting a player from doing that. I replied the action is clearly unsportsmanlike and any coach who teaches or allows his players to do that shouldn't be coaching. End of discussion and end of that tactic. I don't know if "running at the legs" is the same thing but it certainly isn't what most coaches would teach their players to do.

I like the call in your situation & how you handled it!

This situation is when a defender too late to defend the try so they run at the shooter & generally keep running down the court for a quick outlet if the try in unsuccessful. I'm sure you've seen it

[Jay R]

FIBA does address this situation specifically in their Interpretations:

A4 is in the act of shooting for a field goal when B4 attempts to distract A4 by shouting loudly or
stamping feet heavily on the floor. The shot for a field goal is:
(a) Successful.
(b) Unsuccessful.
Interpretation:
B4 shall be given a warning which shall also be communicated to coach B.
(a) This warning shall apply to all team B players for the remainder of the game for similar
behaviour.
(b) B4 shall be charged with a technical foul.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jay R

FIBA does address this situation specifically in their Interpretations:A4 is in the act of shooting for a field goal when B4 attempts to distract A4 by shouting loudly or
stamping feet heavily on the floor. The shot for a field goal is:
(a) Successful.
(b) Unsuccessful.
Interpretation:
B4 shall be given a warning which shall also be communicated to coach B.
(a) This warning shall apply to all team B players for the remainder of the game for similar
behaviour.
(b) B4 shall be charged with a technical foul.

I wonder why the NFHS hasn't tried to incorporate this interpretation. Of course the NFHS would have to change the spelling of "behaviour".

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I wonder why the NFHS hasn't tried to incorporate this interpretation. Of course the NFHS would have to change the spelling of "behaviour".

Why should they? This ain't golf...quite frankly I find that FIBA interpretation to be silly and unneeded.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by ref3808

As described, I have disconcertion.

As described in the original post? Or as described in the responses that narrowed "shot" down to "free throw"?

If you are saying you are going to call disconcertion on a shot, what is your rule basis?

[tref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

As described in the original post? Or as described in the responses that narrowed "shot" down to "free throw"?

If you are saying you are going to call disconcertion on a shot, what is your rule basis?

Rule 11 of course, the same rule used to stick a defender for running at a shooters legs, minus any contact

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by tref

Rule 11 of course, the same rule used to stick a defender for running at a shooters legs, minus any contact

Kinda scary, isn't it?!!?