NFHS View of Shot Clock

[rockyroad]

I would tend to agree with the committee about the shot clock in boys games. Washington State has a 35 second clock for boys and a 30 second for girls. It really was not a factor in any of the boys games I worked or watched this season as most of the boys teams play very up-tempo ball (whether they have the skill to or not). On the girls side, I like it. It can lead to some pretty lopsided scores, but in most cases that would happen even without the clock. It keeps girls teams from getting a 9 or 10 point lead and then stalling (see the Oregon State Championship game).

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I would tend to agree with the committee about the shot clock in boys games. Washington State has a 35 second clock for boys and a 30 second for girls. It really was not a factor in any of the boys games I worked or watched this season as most of the boys teams play very up-tempo ball (whether they have the skill to or not).

A survey showed that a shot occurs in high school basketball once every 16 seconds (though I'm sure that includes put-backs). I still maintain that a shot clock isn't necessary, and I'm glad we don't have to deal with one.

Still, there are fans who scream for a shot clock every single time there's stall ball in a tournament game -- which are televised here. We had one in February that went into double OT, and for six of the eight minutes, the ball was on someone's hip.

As for the rule change, I wonder how much we'll be told to enforce that at the sub-varsity level. Fashion Police: Table Precinct.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bainsey

As for the rule change, I wonder how much we'll be told to enforce that at the sub-varsity level. Fashion Police: Table Precinct.

My guess is not at all. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that this will be ignored in many areas of the country.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Welpe

My guess is not at all. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that this will be ignored in many areas of the country.

Really, I'd guess this would be ignored outright at all levels...including varsity.

As far as the shot clock, I would just have it be something that can be used by state adoption.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Really, I'd guess this would be ignored outright at all levels...including varsity.

As far as the shot clock, I would just have it be something that can be used by state adoption.

And what is going to be the remedy? If they do not have a shirt what the heck are we going to be able to do about it in the first place? Nice little change I guess, but not enforceable on many levels.

And here is the problem with state adoption, it puts those states in jeopardy to have influence on rules in the NF. Not sure everyone is jumping on board to eliminate their influence. I think that is the reason it is not adopted here.

Peace

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And what is going to be the remedy? If they do not have a shirt what the heck are we going to be able to do about it in the first place?

I foresee a message from supervisors stating, don't deal with this one. Contact us, and let us deal with it (a standing order regarding "X"s on the floor).

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Did that survey include girls games? Or was it just in boys games?

Not sure. My source didn't mention gender, so I can only assume it's across the board.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

How hard is it to have an X on the floor? We bought a moveable one that we put down in front of the table and our officials are fine with it.As to the scorer having to wear the black and white-guess I'm going to have to go shopping.Summer starts here in a month and a half.
Wonder if they'll be ok with us wearing the black and white over a school polo shirt?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

My guess is not at all. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that this will be ignored in many areas of the country.

Here, like in many areas, there are a lot of official scorers who have been working these games since the Nixon administration. I doubt we'll be able to enforce this even in the varsity games. It'll be interesting to see, however.

[BillyMac]

chseagle will now get his wish.

[JugglingReferee]

Link to article?

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Link to article?

NFHS | High School Basketball Continues Without Shot Clock

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

chseagle will now get his wish.

Now he's officially officially part of the crew.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Now he's officially officially part of the crew.

Official Scorer. Not Timer. Not Shot Clock Operator. Not Special Advisor To Game Management & Officials.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by bainsey

A survey showed that a shot occurs in high school basketball once every 16 seconds (though I'm sure that includes put-backs).

Did that survey include girls games? Or was it just in boys games?

As far as the scorer wearing the striped shirt - it's pretty simple: the AD of the school needs to buy a striped shirt and keep it with their table gear in the closet (or wherever they keep it). The scorer shows up for the Varsity game and it's sitting there waiting.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Did that survey include girls games? Or was it just in boys games?

I doubt it. People even here try to act like girl's and boy's basketball is the same anyway. So why would we expect in this politically correct world to think that people would try to consider that things are actually different in basketball by gender?

Peace