The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 01, 2012, 07:39pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1
Held ball - Help

In a situation where 2 players are close to being call for a held ball, can a third person comes over and help out their teammate?I have been told by friends that no more than 2 players can hustle for the ball. But in some NBA games, I noticed at times there were 3 players hustling for it. Thanks in advance!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 01, 2012, 08:03pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
There is no rule based limit.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 01, 2012, 09:34pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
This ain't the NHL...there's no third man in rule. Your friends must not watch any kind of basketball to think there's some rule that prevents 3 or more players from hustling for the ball.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 01, 2012, 11:04pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,531
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer View Post
This ain't the NHL...there's no third man in rule. Your friends must not watch any kind of basketball to think there's some rule that prevents 3 or more players from hustling for the ball.
Explain that NHL Rule please? I was not aware. Of such rule in Hockey.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 01, 2012, 11:10pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
Explain that NHL Rule please? I was not aware. Of such rule in Hockey.

Peace
If a third player intervenes in an altercation between two players, the third player is assessed a game misconduct unless a match penalty is being assessed in the original altercation

NHL Rule Book (2011-2012)
46.16 Third Man In - A game misconduct penalty, at the discretion of the Referee, shall be imposed on any player who is the first to intervene (third man in) in an altercation already in progress except when a match penalty is being imposed in the original altercation. This penalty is in addition to any other penalties incurred in the same incident.

This rule also applies to subsequent players who elect to intervene in the same or other altercations during the same stoppage of play.

Generally, this rule is applied when a fightys occurs
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.


Last edited by APG; Tue May 01, 2012 at 11:17pm.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 12:21am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer View Post
Generally, this rule is applied when a fightys occurs
Is that a Greek fight?
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 01:36am
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,531
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells View Post
Is that a Greek fight?
No that is Canadian for what they do in Hockey.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 06:12am
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,223
Respectfully Disagree ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells View Post
There is no rule based limit.
There isn't? How about eleven players? Legal?
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 06:47am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,183
Impressive APG! Do you work on the ice as well?
__________________
I gotta new attitude!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 08:27am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by thm19 View Post
In a situation where 2 players are close to being call for a held ball, can a third person comes over and help out their teammate?I have been told by friends that no more than 2 players can hustle for the ball. But in some NBA games, I noticed at times there were 3 players hustling for it. Thanks in advance!
Please tell me your friends aren't officials. Please?
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 08:31am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
No that is Canadian for what they do in Hockey.

Peace
Should have known it was the Canadeapean spelling.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 08:38am
Archaic Power Monger
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
Impressive APG! Do you work on the ice as well?
He just takes being a rules geek to a whole 'nother level.
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 11:16am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
There isn't? How about eleven players? Legal?
Well, chances are if I haven't noticed 11 players on the court before a held ball situation develops, I won't be noticing during that situation. But yes, Billy, I suppose there's a limit, technically.

That said, there's no way in hell this situation is getting beyond three or four players before I have a whistle or the ball comes loose. That's just asking for trouble, so the limit isn't rules-based so much as it is practical.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 12:43pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells View Post
Is that a Greek fight?
Blame the NHL website for the spelling haha

Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
Impressive APG! Do you work on the ice as well?
Goodness no haha...just make it a point to be as knowledgeable as possible with any sport I watch. Plus I couldn't skate nearly as well as those referees and linesmen do.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 02, 2012, 01:20pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,531
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells View Post
Well, chances are if I haven't noticed 11 players on the court before a held ball situation develops, I won't be noticing during that situation. But yes, Billy, I suppose there's a limit, technically.

That said, there's no way in hell this situation is getting beyond three or four players before I have a whistle or the ball comes loose. That's just asking for trouble, so the limit isn't rules-based so much as it is practical.
So if the ball is clearly on the floor and players are coming from everywhere you are stopping play just to keep away from trouble?

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Held Ball Spence Basketball 14 Tue Jan 13, 2009 06:16pm
Held Ball /TO? OHBBREF Basketball 26 Thu Mar 29, 2007 01:11pm
held ball just another ref Basketball 14 Mon Nov 03, 2003 09:19am
Held Ball whistleblower Basketball 5 Mon Nov 25, 2002 06:24pm
Held Ball DrC. Basketball 6 Sat Mar 04, 2000 03:08pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:05am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1