Front pivot moves: traveling or not?

[MDP]

Hi,

I'd like an opinion about whether the moves in the video below are traveling or not:

Post Move Teaching?Front Pivot Moves - YouTube


Some additional questions:

- Is there a difference between the way this is called in different leagues? FIBA, NCAA, NBA?

- If it's not traveling: why does the coach say at the end, "be careful about the way officials are calling the game."

Thanks.

[JugglingReferee]

The examples at the beginning are all legal moves. I wasn't going to watch the entire 7 minutes.

His comments disguised his belief that some officials do not apply travelling correctly, and therefore might call one or more of these plays travelling.

The NBA has a different travelling rule than FIBA, NCAA, and NFHS.

[MDP]

Yes, I am referring to the moves in the first minute or so of the video.

You say that the NBA has different rules: would any of those moves be traveling in the NBA?

Also, does it make a difference if the player starts the move from a standing position (as in the video), or if he does it after collecting his dribble, *assuming that he does have a pivot foot*?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by MDP

Yes, I am referring to the moves in the first minute or so of the video.

None of those moves is traveling.

You say that the NBA has different rules: would any of those moves be traveling in the NBA?

No, all would be legal.

Also, does it make a difference if the player starts the move from a standing position (as in the video), or if he does it after collecting his dribble, *assuming that he does have a pivot foot*?

No.

Once you understand what traveling actually is, it's very easy to see that these moves are all legal. Very briefly, traveling is (usually) lifting the pivot foot and then returning it to the floor before the ball is released on a try or pass.

When you watch the video, you can see that, in all of the moves demonstrated, the ball handler is very careful to lift the pivot foot but NOT return it to the floor.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by MDP

...- If it's not traveling: why does the coach say at the end, "be careful about the way officials are calling the game."

Thanks.

Because coaches say all kinds of things.

[Camron Rust]

Agree..all of the beginning moves are legal at all levels.

I did watch the rest out of curiosity and there were a couple of plays in the 3:10-3:30 range of the video that were travels....pivot foot lifted before the ball was released to start the dribble. They were close and would probably go uncalled in live action, but they were technically travels.

[bainsey]

[Adam]

The "front pivot" (whatever that means) moves at the beginning weren't even close to traveling, IMO. Maybe his "back pivot" moves are illegal, but I quit watching after the first segment.

[JRutledge]

I stopped watching a few minutes in the video as well, but what I saw was legal.

Peace

[jump stop]

You can lift your pivot foot but can't return to floor if you are passing or shooting. You can't lift your when starting a dribble.
He lifts pivot foot when but shoots prior to returning to floor in these moves so no travel .

I have made a video to demonstrate determining the pivot foot and jump stops

Jump stop rule - YouTube