Celtics play

[berserkBBK]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

block (don't understand why there's so much discussion...pretty clear - block)
travel on reception and travel prior to shot.

As APG said, block in the NBA based on their rule of defensive box.

However, this is a PC foul under NCAA and NFHS. Player establishes LGP and moves laterally and backwards, taking the contact in the chest.
How is this a "pretty clear - block"?

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by berserkBBK

As APG said, block in the NBA based on their rule of defensive box.

However, this is a PC foul under NCAA and NFHS. Player establishes LGP and moves laterally and backwards, taking the contact in the chest.
How is this a "pretty clear - block"?

I do not think the defender established LGP....this is coming from an official who calls more PC fouls than most (thanks to my: "a block is a block, a charge is a charge, and everything else in between is a charge" philosophy).

I would venture a guess that, when this play occurs in an actual game, 80-90% of officials would rule this a block.....

btw, can't see the travel that some are alleging took place. In other circumstances, too many officials rule a travel in situations like this to avoid having to call a block/charge......I think it is mainly because the don't know whether it's a block or charge - so they bail themselves out by calling a travel.

[tref]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

btw, can't see the travel that some are alleging took place. In other circumstances, too many officials rule a travel in situations like this to avoid having to call a block/charge......I think it is mainly because the don't know whether it's a block or charge - so they bail themselves out by calling a travel.

Yeah I think travels should be like 3 seconds, in regards to NOT making that be your best call.

[APG]

Originally Posted by tref

Yeah I think travels should be like 3 seconds, in regards to NOT making that be your best call.

Make every type of call your best call.

[tref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Make every type of call your best call.

True

[berserkBBK]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

block (don't understand why there's so much discussion...pretty clear - block)
travel on reception and travel prior to shot.

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

I would venture a guess that, when this play occurs in an actual game, 80-90% of officials would rule this a block.....

These seem contradictory but not important

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

I do not think the defender established LGP....this is coming from an official who calls more PC fouls than most (thanks to my: "a block is a block, a charge is a charge, and everything else in between is a charge" philosophy).

Looking again it is close, but he has LGP as Wade has his left foot on the ground while turning. I think it is a great defensive play and we reward him with a charge call.
I can't agree with this philosophy as I don't like guessing or making absolutes on plays we should be able to get. I have heard the saying "what did the defense do wrong?" I like that better as a teaching "saying" as it teaches to referee the defense. While we can still get plays wrong, I believe it helps to get more plays correct.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by berserkBBK

These seem contradictory but not important




Looking again it is close, but he has LGP as Wade has his left foot on the ground while turning. I think it is a great defensive play and we reward him with a charge call.
I can't agree with this philosophy as I don't like guessing or making absolutes on plays we should be able to get. I have heard the saying "what did the defense do wrong?" I like that better as a teaching "saying" as it teaches to referee the defense. While we can still get plays wrong, I believe it helps to get more plays correct.

Watching it live, I had a PC foul, without regard to the NBA difference.

BTW, APG, if you could find it, I'd like to see the play where Kevin Love got hurt against the Nuggets.