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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 12:51pm
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Block in real time. Too close to reverse it in slow mo...and Doris Burke actually said something accurate for a change..."This is the hardest call in basletball...any official will tell you that"
I guess it depends on the official and what you live by. I do not think the block/charge call is that difficult at all. I think it is usually an easy call if you watch the right things.

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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 12:52pm
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I've got a PC.

I notice that the C was almost as high as the T. It helps to sell a call like this if you're closer to the play.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 12:54pm
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 01:14pm
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Block. No question.
That's funny. If there's no question...how come nobody seems to agree?
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 01:16pm
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That's funny. If there's no question...how come nobody seems to agree?
If you're right why agree with the individuals that are wrong?? j/k
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 02:12pm
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 02:24pm
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I've got a PC.

I notice that the C was almost as high as the T. It helps to sell a call like this if you're closer to the play.
Was waiting for someone to mention that.

Again fellas, with Women's mechanics here it is NOT necessary to have an echo whistle from the lead with plays originating outside of the paint going to the hole. Mary has posted many bulletins on the NCAA site about this type of play. It is just danger for a blarge situation that the C would overrule anyhow!
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 02:37pm
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I guess it depends on the official and what you live by. I do not think the block/charge call is that difficult at all. I think it is usually an easy call if you watch the right things.

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I agree, block / charge is not the most difficult call, especially if you get in good position to officiate the play.

In this case, defender moved laterally to get to a spot before contact to the torso. All the makings of a good ol' fashion player control foul. While the mechanic might be for the C to have this, the lead was in much better position to see the defender. $.02
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 03:33pm
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I'm having trouble seeing this as anything but a block - I don't ever see LGP, and defender is moving into the offensive player when contact is made (at least - below the waist she is.)
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 06:33pm
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Tough call. I've got a player control foul. I wouldn't have a problem if somebody else called a block.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 07:04pm
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Was waiting for someone to mention that.

Again fellas, with Women's mechanics here it is NOT necessary to have an echo whistle from the lead with plays originating outside of the paint going to the hole. Mary has posted many bulletins on the NCAA site about this type of play. It is just danger for a blarge situation that the C would overrule anyhow!
Just so, I understand this according to NCAAW. If a play starts from the C's PCA they will be responsible for both the primary and secondary defender?
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 07:20pm
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Just so, I understand this according to NCAAW. If a play starts from the C's PCA they will be responsible for both the primary and secondary defender?
No...but this isn't really a primary/secondary defender type play. There never was a "primary" defender that got beat - this is simply a transition play, and since the drive started in C's PCA it is C's drive all the way to the basket.

It sure seems like an easy PC call to me. The defender had both feet on the floor and took the contact straight in the chest - so she obviously got to the spot first - and the contact took place while the shooter's foot was still on the floor, so you can't say the defender moved in underneath the shooter...I agree that this call was missed because the C was not in the proper position. For some reason he stopped way too high.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 07:39pm
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Just so, I understand this according to NCAAW. If a play starts from the C's PCA they will be responsible for both the primary and secondary defender?
No, but to expand...in NCAAW if there's a one-on-one in front of you as the C - usually in a half court setup - and A1 starts going to the hoop you deal primarily with A1 and B1.

If A1 beats B1 then B2 slides over as a help defender on the block or in the lane, the L can pick that up.

All this assumes the L has closed down, of course.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 08:57pm
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(This is all prefaced with "in my own, limited, not-D1 NCAA-W opinion)

I was at the game, and I thought DeMayo had a rough night. In person I was okay with the block, but my wife noticed that Inouye was about to punch.

It was a tough call, IMO. And Inouye had a rough few minutes here and there, too, throughout. This was one of them.
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