Video: Not a travel in NBA, but would you call this a travel in HS or NCAA

[IUgrad92]

This is clearly a travel by HS standards. The NBA is about entertainment first, rules second. Hence being called the NBE.

Sadly, at least in regards to travel calls, the NCAA is going more towards the NBA philosophy. In the tournament games I watched, I saw a valid travel situation nearly every trip down the court, especially on wing play. Example, player catches a pass in the air, comes down on one foot then the other, and it seem like 75% of the time the player uses the second foot down as the pivot and it's seldom called. Game interrupter, maybe. But what's the purpose of having the rule in the book if it isn't enforced?

[APG]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

This is clearly a travel by HS standards. The NBA is about entertainment first, rules second. Hence being called the NBE.

It's a good thing the NBA official followed the rule here.

And should I assume you'll be calling NCAA men's basketball, NCAAE, since as you put it, you saw a valid travel situation every trip down the court? I mean they've also added the RA as well as some other absolutes that mimic some NBA philosophies.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

It's a good thing the NBA official followed the rule here.

And should I assume you'll be calling NCAA men's basketball, NCAAE, since as you put it, you saw a valid travel situation every trip down the court? I mean they've also added the RA as well as some other absolutes that mimic some NBA philosophies.

Never seem to hear much complaining about all the things let go at the college level for sure.

Peace

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

It's a good thing the NBA official followed the rule here.

And should I assume you'll be calling NCAA men's basketball, NCAAE, since as you put it, you saw a valid travel situation every trip down the court? I mean they've also added the RA as well as some other absolutes that mimic some NBA philosophies.

I'm not the one that coined the acronym NBE, but it does fit. Like many others on this board, I think NBA games are un-watchable I guess that's from the viewpoint of a basketball traditionalist.

I still have hope for the NCAA, for now. I'll be seeing a few D1 officials this summer and I'm going to seek their opinions in regards to the travel philosophy within the conferences they work, etc.

[APG]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

I'm not the one that coined the acronym NBE, but it does fit. Like many others on this board, I think NBA games are un-watchable I guess that's from the viewpoint of a basketball traditionalist.

I still have hope for the NCAA, for now. I'll be seeing a few D1 officials this summer and I'm going to seek their opinions in regards to the travel philosophy within the conferences they work, etc.

All professional sports have certain rules geared towards being more entertaining...hell when you compare some NFL rules and enforcement compared to NCAA rules, you'd see how blatant it is. Am I to assume those same people that call the NBA the NBE or whatever silly acronym they're saying these days call the NFL the NFE?

Again, for all supposed things the NBA and their officials do in the name of entertainment, according to you, NCAA officials are doing the EXACT SAME THING...hell the rules committee and the head of officiating have gone so far as to add some of those very same rules and philosophies. Are those same people going to call NCAA men's basketball NCAAE?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

I'm not the one that coined the acronym NBE, but it does fit. Like many others on this board, I think NBA games are un-watchable I guess that's from the viewpoint of a basketball traditionalist.

I still have hope for the NCAA, for now. I'll be seeing a few D1 officials this summer and I'm going to seek their opinions in regards to the travel philosophy within the conferences they work, etc.

Just because everyone says something does not mean it is true. Like many things in life people stereotype things they either do not really know or pay no attention to, but base their opinions off of things they hear from multiple sources. I guess it is sad because I would think officials would do more admitting to what they do not observe than listening to the media or uneducated people. If you watch NBA games at all (and I admit to not being a big fan of the NBA at least during the regular season), you will see many traveling calls made even on the so-called stars that everyone claims those calls are ignored based on who commits the violation. There was a tape shown of Doc Rivers' son of making multiple violations in gathering the ball on this very site while he was playing for Duke. Did anyone say anything about the officials not adhering to the rules and worried about entertainment? Nope.

Peace

[just another ref]

Yes, the video is slowed down. Having noted that, how can anyone say this is not a travel. What did it look like in real time? Maybe somebody can post it. This is not a real fast moving play, I would think it still would be plenty obvious to call. The problem is, this play, and others, such as all the crap in the Austin Rivers video posted earlier, are all missed/ignored so often now that I feel guilty when I do call them.

"Mr. Ref, everybody else has let us do that all year."

Sad, but true.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

"Mr. Ref, everybody else has let us do that all year."

Sad, but true.

I have never heard anyone say that on a traveling violation. Maybe someone standing outside the box or wearing an illegal undershirt, but never on a travel or a foul.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have never heard anyone say that on a traveling violation. Maybe someone standing outside the box or wearing an illegal undershirt, but never on a travel or a foul.

Peace

I haven't heard the words either, but it's obvious sometimes by the looks on the faces. Last year had a big guy who would catch on the high post, put the ball on the floor, do a spin move and shoot. One of those that you could call a travel even if you sneezed in the middle of it. When he picked up the dribble he was on one side of the lane facing the basket, and he would end up on the other side of the lane, also facing the basket, with a 360 spin in between.

Smooth

Pretty

Illegal

It was obvious that he had been allowed to make that move before.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

J\There was a tape shown of Doc Rivers' son of making multiple violations in gathering the ball on this very site while he was playing for Duke. Did anyone say anything about the officials not adhering to the rules and worried about entertainment? Nope.

Peace

Of course not...but replace Doc Rivers' son with Kobe Bryant or LeBron James, and then the officials aren't enforcing the rules and it's allllll entertainment!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Of course not...but replace Doc Rivers' son with Kobe Bryant or LeBron James, and then the officials aren't enforcing the rules and it's allllll entertainment!

Even with the fact that I have seen Kobe Bryant and LeBron James called for more travels in the past month than I saw in that one game with Rivers?



Peace