Dribble or not

[habram]

Can a player place the ball on the floor beside him/her ,then pick up the ball and start to dribble

[Adam]

Originally Posted by habram

Can a player place the ball on the floor beside him/her ,then pick up the ball and start to dribble

What did the player do while the ball was on the floor?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by habram

Can a player place the ball on the floor beside him/her ,then pick up the ball and start to dribble

No. And who would do that?

[tref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No. And who would do that?

The Globetrotters?

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No. And who would do that?

Why not? Wouldn't this be classified a fumble?

Can fumble-dribble-fumble, correct?

[tref]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Why not? Wouldn't this be classified a fumble?

Can fumble-dribble-fumble, correct?

Isnt a fumble done accidentaly? The OP sounds as if the player placed the ball down on purpose. Not saying this is illegal, just that it isnt a fumble.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Isnt a fumble done accidentaly? The OP sounds as if the player placed the ball down on purpose. Not saying this is illegal, just that it isnt a fumble.

It's also not a dribble, so I'm not sure what would prevent it provided the player doesn't do something else illegal (such as get up or move the pivot foot) while the ball is on the floor.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's also not a dribble, so I'm not sure what would prevent it provided the player doesn't do something else illegal (such as get up or move the pivot foot) while the ball is on the floor.

I agree... until bob provides some proof, that is.

[habram]

Is this situation legal or not
the player is standing up , and just puts the ball on the floor with no defense around guarding

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by habram

Is this situation legal or not
the player is standing up , and just puts the ball on the floor with no defense around guarding

Huh? Missing some elements of what I think you are asking plus adding one that has nothing to do with the play.

Are you asking if a player who is sitting down can put the ball on the floor, stand up, and then pick up the ball again? The "defense" part is irrelavent.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by habram

Is this situation legal or not
the player is standing up , and just puts the ball on the floor with no defense around guarding

Here's part of the comment on the definition of dribbling in the NFHS case book, 4-15:

"...It is not a dribble when a player stands still and holds the ball and touches it to the floor once or more than once."

So...it would appear from the comment that once A1 lets go of the ball A1 has dribbled, meaning A1 cannot pick up the ball and dribble again.

[tref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Here's part of the comment on the definition of dribbling in the NFHS case book, 4-15:

"...It is not a dribble when a player stands still and holds the ball and touches it to the floor once or more than once."

So...it would appear from the comment that once A1 lets go of the ball A1 has dribbled, meaning A1 cannot pick up the ball and dribble again.

Hmmmmm Not according to 4-15-3

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by tref

Hmmmmm Not according to 4-15-3

I took that into account with my post. I based my answer on what's in the comment on the rule. The two definitely seem contradictory but then again I'm guessing the rules makers didn't consider a scenario like this.

[tref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I took that into account with my post. I based my answer on what's in the comment on the rule. The two definitely seem contradictory but then again I'm guessing the rules makers didn't consider a scenario like this.

Good point, but I'm still passing on this play (if ever applicable) due to the fact that placing the ball on the floor isnt the same as pushing, throwing, batting the ball to the floor. Just my opinion.

[Adam]

Setting the ball on the floor is only a problem if the player gets up in the middle of the process; because the rules makers didn't want players taking advantage of a loophole. Otherwise, I see nothing wrong with it because it doesn't create an advantage of any kind and it's not specifically disallowed. Unless I'm missing something, which is possible.