Dribble or not

[habram]

Can a player place the ball on the floor beside him/her ,then pick up the ball and start to dribble

[Adam]

Originally Posted by habram

Can a player place the ball on the floor beside him/her ,then pick up the ball and start to dribble

What did the player do while the ball was on the floor?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by habram

Can a player place the ball on the floor beside him/her ,then pick up the ball and start to dribble

No. And who would do that?

[tref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No. And who would do that?

The Globetrotters?

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No. And who would do that?

Why not? Wouldn't this be classified a fumble?

Can fumble-dribble-fumble, correct?

[tref]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Why not? Wouldn't this be classified a fumble?

Can fumble-dribble-fumble, correct?

Isnt a fumble done accidentaly? The OP sounds as if the player placed the ball down on purpose. Not saying this is illegal, just that it isnt a fumble.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Isnt a fumble done accidentaly? The OP sounds as if the player placed the ball down on purpose. Not saying this is illegal, just that it isnt a fumble.

It's also not a dribble, so I'm not sure what would prevent it provided the player doesn't do something else illegal (such as get up or move the pivot foot) while the ball is on the floor.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's also not a dribble, so I'm not sure what would prevent it provided the player doesn't do something else illegal (such as get up or move the pivot foot) while the ball is on the floor.

I agree... until bob provides some proof, that is.

[mbyron]

Assuming a player is on the floor:

Set the ball down, get up, pick up the ball and start dribbling: TRAVEL.

Set the ball down, roll over, pick up the ball and start dribbling: LEGAL.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Assuming a player is on the floor:

Set the ball down, get up, pick up the ball and start dribbling: TRAVEL.

Set the ball down, roll over, pick up the ball and start dribbling: LEGAL.

See case play:


4.44.5 SITUATION B:

A1 dives for a loose ball and slides after gaining control. A1 is in a position either on his/her back or stomach. What can A1 do without *violating?

RULING: A1 may pass, shoot, start a dribble or call a time-out. Once A1 has the ball and is no longer sliding, he/she may not roll over. If flat on his/her back, A1 may sit up without violating. Any attempt to get to the feet is *traveling unless A1 is dribbling. It is also traveling if A1 puts the ball on the floor, then rises and is first to touch the ball. (4-44-5b)

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

See case play:


4.44.5 SITUATION B:

A1 dives for a loose ball and slides after gaining control. A1 is in a position either on his/her back or stomach. What can A1 do without *violating?

RULING: A1 may pass, shoot, start a dribble or call a time-out. Once A1 has the ball and is no longer sliding, he/she may not roll over. If flat on his/her back, A1 may sit up without violating. Any attempt to get to the feet is *traveling unless A1 is dribbling. It is also traveling if A1 puts the ball on the floor, then rises and is first to touch the ball. (4-44-5b)

Right, you're agreeing with me.

In my second case, the player does NOT get up.

[SNIPERBBB]

Wouldn't the player have to rollover again to pickup the ball?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Assuming a player is on the floor:

Set the ball down, get up, pick up the ball and start dribbling: TRAVEL.

Set the ball down, roll over, pick up the ball and start dribbling: LEGAL.

Originally Posted by mbyron

Right, you're agreeing with me.

In my second case, the player does NOT get up.

Maybe so, but that case is establishing the principle that a player is not allowed to subvert the travel rule by setting the ball down on the floor then moving in a way to gain an advantage (i.e., get a more advantageous position) that would be traveling had they continued to hold the ball.

If they set the ball down, roll over, then pick it back up in a position that is more favorable, I'm calling traveling.

[habram]

Is this situation legal or not
the player is standing up , and just puts the ball on the floor with no defense around guarding

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by habram

Is this situation legal or not
the player is standing up , and just puts the ball on the floor with no defense around guarding

Huh? Missing some elements of what I think you are asking plus adding one that has nothing to do with the play.

Are you asking if a player who is sitting down can put the ball on the floor, stand up, and then pick up the ball again? The "defense" part is irrelavent.