Griner Dunk

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Brad

I have never heard any coordinator...discuss the gender of officials.

I have.

Multiple times.

To my face, and to large groups of officials at camps.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I have.

Multiple times.

To my face, and to large groups of officials at camps.

Yeah? And what was said?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Brad

Yeah? And what was said?

To my face: "I don't need any more white males on my staff."

To a group: "I will always hire the female candidate if her officiating is even close to the male's."

Several other things along the same line...

That person is no longer a coordinator, but that has nothing to do with those kids of comments that were made on a fairly regular basis.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

no way her elbow contacted the backboard.

Originally Posted by brad

pretty sure it was her knee then.

lol

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

To my face: "I don't need any more white males on my staff."

To a group: "I will always hire the female candidate if her officiating is even close to the male's."

Several other things along the same line...

That person is no longer a coordinator, but that has nothing to do with those kids of comments that were made on a fairly regular basis.

Yup. Amazing how officials with 3-4 years experience are climbing the college ladder and working HS state finals. I've heard camp clinicians (back when I actually went to NCAAW camps) say the same thing. The woman will always get hired ahead of the white male if they're even close.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

Yup. Amazing how officials with 3-4 years experience are climbing the college ladder and working HS state finals. I've heard camp clinicians (back when I actually went to NCAAW camps) say the same thing. The woman will always get hired ahead of the white male if they're even close.

One doesn't need to hear the comments to know what's happening, but it is nice to know someone is at least honest about it.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

To my face: "I don't need any more white males on my staff."

To a group: "I will always hire the female candidate if her officiating is even close to the male's."

Several other things along the same line...

That person is no longer a coordinator, but that has nothing to do with those kids of comments that were made on a fairly regular basis.

I'm not saying we were at the same camp.........

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I'm not saying we were at the same camp.........

If you were at an NCAAW camp in this corner of the country, then we probably were!

[amusedofficial]

I've never dunked the basketball.

I have absolutely no idea what you need to do to steady yourself before dropping to the floor so that you don't get hurt on landing. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, especially when, as it the case here, she turned and went back on defense without so much as dirty look. She was well within the bounds of sporting conduct.

Given the propensity of women to ACL injuries, I hope nobody is in a hurry to whack a woman for steadying herself before dropping to the floor after a dunk. Sometimes the bending of the elbows, even in a pull-up fashion, seems to be an attempt to steady the body and distribute the weigh in order to hit the ground properly and not at some freakish angle that risks injury to ankle, knee or hip.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

I've never dunked the basketball.

I have absolutely no idea what you need to do to steady yourself before dropping to the floor so that you don't get hurt on landing. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, especially when, as it the case here, she turned and went back on defense without so much as dirty look. She was well within the bounds of sporting conduct.

Given the propensity of women to ACL injuries, I hope nobody is in a hurry to whack a woman for steadying herself before dropping to the floor after a dunk. Sometimes the bending of the elbows, even in a pull-up fashion, seems to be an attempt to steady the body and distribute the weigh in order to hit the ground properly and not at some freakish angle that risks injury to ankle, knee or hip.

Layups count the same 2 points as dunks.

[amusedofficial]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

Layups count the same 2 points as dunks.

And is just as legal.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

And is just as legal.

My point is that we shouldn't give any more leeway on a dunk *just because* women are at a greater risk of ACL injuries. Rather, maybe that's a reason to not try something that carries a greater risk of injury.