The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #61 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 04:56pm
Esteemed Participant
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 4,776
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad View Post

I have never heard any coordinator...discuss the gender of officials.
I have.

Multiple times.

To my face, and to large groups of officials at camps.
Reply With Quote
  #62 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 05:03pm
Whack! Get Out!!!
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Johnson City, TN
Posts: 1,029
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockyroad View Post
I have.

Multiple times.

To my face, and to large groups of officials at camps.
Yeah? And what was said?
Reply With Quote
  #63 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 05:14pm
Esteemed Participant
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 4,776
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad View Post
Yeah? And what was said?
To my face: "I don't need any more white males on my staff."

To a group: "I will always hire the female candidate if her officiating is even close to the male's."

Several other things along the same line...

That person is no longer a coordinator, but that has nothing to do with those kids of comments that were made on a fairly regular basis.
Reply With Quote
  #64 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 06:49pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Canada, eh?
Posts: 1,628
Quote:
Originally Posted by canuckrefguy View Post
no way her elbow contacted the backboard.
Quote:
Originally Posted by brad View Post
pretty sure it was her knee then.
lol
__________________
HOMER: Just gimme my gun.
CLERK: Hold on, the law requires a five-day waiting period; we've got run a background check...
HOMER: Five days???? But I'm mad NOW!!
Reply With Quote
  #65 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 07:40pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockyroad View Post
To my face: "I don't need any more white males on my staff."

To a group: "I will always hire the female candidate if her officiating is even close to the male's."

Several other things along the same line...

That person is no longer a coordinator, but that has nothing to do with those kids of comments that were made on a fairly regular basis.
Yup. Amazing how officials with 3-4 years experience are climbing the college ladder and working HS state finals. I've heard camp clinicians (back when I actually went to NCAAW camps) say the same thing. The woman will always get hired ahead of the white male if they're even close.
Reply With Quote
  #66 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:08pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Purgatory
Posts: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by GROUPthink View Post
Yup. Amazing how officials with 3-4 years experience are climbing the college ladder and working HS state finals. I've heard camp clinicians (back when I actually went to NCAAW camps) say the same thing. The woman will always get hired ahead of the white male if they're even close.
One doesn't need to hear the comments to know what's happening, but it is nice to know someone is at least honest about it.
__________________
I left my wallet in the car, can you get lunch and I'll getcha back next time? Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #67 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:20pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Not where I was previously
Posts: 1,060
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockyroad View Post
To my face: "I don't need any more white males on my staff."

To a group: "I will always hire the female candidate if her officiating is even close to the male's."

Several other things along the same line...

That person is no longer a coordinator, but that has nothing to do with those kids of comments that were made on a fairly regular basis.
I'm not saying we were at the same camp.........
Reply With Quote
  #68 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:46pm
Esteemed Participant
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 4,776
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judtech View Post
I'm not saying we were at the same camp.........
If you were at an NCAAW camp in this corner of the country, then we probably were!
Reply With Quote
  #69 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 11:20pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 280
I wouldn't know

I've never dunked the basketball.

I have absolutely no idea what you need to do to steady yourself before dropping to the floor so that you don't get hurt on landing. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, especially when, as it the case here, she turned and went back on defense without so much as dirty look. She was well within the bounds of sporting conduct.

Given the propensity of women to ACL injuries, I hope nobody is in a hurry to whack a woman for steadying herself before dropping to the floor after a dunk. Sometimes the bending of the elbows, even in a pull-up fashion, seems to be an attempt to steady the body and distribute the weigh in order to hit the ground properly and not at some freakish angle that risks injury to ankle, knee or hip.
Reply With Quote
  #70 (permalink)  
Old Wed Mar 28, 2012, 07:39am
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by amusedofficial View Post
I've never dunked the basketball.

I have absolutely no idea what you need to do to steady yourself before dropping to the floor so that you don't get hurt on landing. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, especially when, as it the case here, she turned and went back on defense without so much as dirty look. She was well within the bounds of sporting conduct.

Given the propensity of women to ACL injuries, I hope nobody is in a hurry to whack a woman for steadying herself before dropping to the floor after a dunk. Sometimes the bending of the elbows, even in a pull-up fashion, seems to be an attempt to steady the body and distribute the weigh in order to hit the ground properly and not at some freakish angle that risks injury to ankle, knee or hip.
Layups count the same 2 points as dunks.
Reply With Quote
  #71 (permalink)  
Old Thu Mar 29, 2012, 01:55pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 280
Quote:
Originally Posted by GROUPthink View Post
Layups count the same 2 points as dunks.
And is just as legal.
Reply With Quote
  #72 (permalink)  
Old Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:18pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by amusedofficial View Post
And is just as legal.
My point is that we shouldn't give any more leeway on a dunk *just because* women are at a greater risk of ACL injuries. Rather, maybe that's a reason to not try something that carries a greater risk of injury.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dunk in pregame Jmcmu66 Basketball 165 Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:59am
Almost dunk just another ref Basketball 25 Sun Mar 14, 2010 01:18pm
Pregame Dunk JasonTX Basketball 7 Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:25am
Assisted dunk Mark Padgett Basketball 14 Mon Nov 20, 2006 03:02pm
720 degree dunk caityr5 Basketball 14 Thu Jul 27, 2006 08:32am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1