I have a few questions for the NCAA refs

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by truerookie

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new T which is the old L. Should not have a whistle unless the contact is below the shoulders.

Really? So if the Lead sees B1 elbow contacting A1's head while B1 is blocking the shot he's supposed to ignore it?

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Really? So if the Lead sees B1 elbow contacting A1's head while B1 is blocking the shot he's supposed to ignore it?

Really!! T or C should be aggressive in ensuring they catch that level of contact.

From your question, you believe the L is justified in calling a push from behind too.

[tref]

A push from behind isnt in the same category as a shot to the dome.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by tref

A push from behind isnt in the same category as a shot to the dome.

Why not? A shot to the dome can occur from behind as well as from the front. The lead to call that too? My point is if that level of contact occurred the T or C should be aggressive in getting it instead of the lead.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Really!! T or C should be aggressive in ensuring they catch that level of contact.

From your question, you believe the L is justified in calling a push from behind too.

If he's worked to get a good angle (which is possible on many such fouls), then yes. If he's straight lined; no.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If he's worked to get a good angle (which is possible on many such fouls), then yes. If he's straight lined; no.

True, but I think C/T get first crack at it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

True, but I think C/T get first crack at it.

With three, yep.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If he's worked to get a good angle (which is possible on many such fouls), then yes. If he's straight lined; no.

Originally Posted by tref

True, but I think C/T get first crack at it.

Nobody said they shouldn't. We're addressing Mr. GroupThink's assertion that the Lead can't call any contact above the shoulders.

Originally Posted by truerookie

Really!! T or C should be aggressive in ensuring they catch that level of contact.

What level of contact? I didn't say it was severe. I said an elbow clips the shooter's head during a blocked shot. There plenty of play scenarios where the T or C might not see contact to the head depending on the positioning of the players involved.

Originally Posted by truerookie

From your question, you believe the L is justified in calling a push from behind too.

I fail to see the correlation between my question and this assertion. Maybe you could enlighten me since I'm not part of your particular GroupThink Tank.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Nobody said they shouldn't. We're addressing Mr. GroupThink's assertion that the Lead can't call any contact above the shoulders.



What level of contact? I didn't say it was severe. I said an elbow clips the shooter's head during a blocked shot. There plenty of play scenarios where the T or C might not see contact to the head depending on the positioning of the players involved.



I fail to see the correlation between my question and this assertion. Maybe you could enlighten me since I'm not part of your particular GroupThink Tank.

lol, first of all, I have stated the T or C should be aggressive with contact above the shoulders and the L should worry about contact below the shoulders.

Second, if there is a shot to the dome, IMO, the T or C should grab it. That's play at or above the rim.

Third, If the T or C cannot see the contact to the head depending on their positioning (they elect not to move to continue to see between the players).

Finally, who appointed me CEO of GroupThink Tank?