Mike Kitts... B1G Championship

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Matt S.

Because it was right in front of him, in the paint. Is it possible he was screened by someone, sure... the larger gaffe is the shot clock/game clock lack of awareness, IMO.

I would argue that it would be a bigger gaffe to miss a foul, as you say he did, than to have an IW when the two horns would have been less than a second apart.

[Matt S.]

Agree to disagree. I've never understood why officials even feel the need to whistle at the end of a period, unless there's a shot to wave off... if I'm making $2500+ to do a game, I'm going to know there's .9 difference between game and shot clock at the end of a half.

[ILRef80]

Originally Posted by Matt S.

Agree to disagree. I've never understood why officials even feel the need to whistle at the end of a period, unless there's a shot to wave off... if I'm making $2500+ to do a game, I'm going to know there's .9 difference between game and shot clock at the end of a half.

I agree with this. The IW was a pretty big gaffe, IMO.

[Judtech]

I think the T was to Izzo because Izzo wanted a DOG for the OSU player passing the ball to a ref after a made OSU basket.
And Izzo did get the stop sign.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by ILRef80

I agree with this. The IW was a pretty big gaffe, IMO.

Why? As far as IW's go, this one was as minor as it gets. Less that a second until the end of the half, there was clear team control when the IW happened, and quite frankly, Ohio State was already heading off the floor for halftime, maybe they thought the same thing that Kitts did?

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Why? As far as IW's go, this one was as minor as it gets. Less that a second until the end of the half, there was clear team control when the IW happened, and quite frankly, Ohio State was already heading off the floor for halftime, maybe they thought the same thing that Kitts did?

Except that it put MSU at a disadvantage by allowing a better scoring than they would have if he was paying attention...

The real problem is it illustrated his lack of awareness that has occurred ALL weekend! You CANNOT perform this poorly and still get the Campionship Game assignment.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Except that it put MSU at a disadvantage by allowing a better scoring than they would have if he was paying attention...

The real problem is it illustrated his lack of awareness that has occurred ALL weekend! You CANNOT perform this poorly and still get the Campionship Game assignment.

If you are to be believed about earlier this tournament......apparently you can!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by ILRef80

What gets me in this game is Valentine's extremely late foul calls. He's literally waiting to see if the ball goes in and calling the foul 3-4 seconds after it occurs.

It's called a slow whistle.

Originally Posted by Matt S.

... if I'm making $2500+ to do a game, I'm going to know there's .9 difference between game and shot clock at the end of a half.

So if you were making $2500+ to do a game, you would never make a mistake?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

So if you were making $2500+ to do a game, you would never make a mistake?

That seems to be the prevailing theory among fans.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

It's called a slow whistle.



So if you were making $2500+ to do a game, you would never make a mistake?

3-4 seconds is too long in my opinion. I agree with having a patient whistle and seeing if the contact affected the shot. If it was an easily made basket then I might view it as incidental. I'd have to see the play. However, if it rolled around on the rim, then I'm calling it as soon as I see that. Again, assuming that I deemed that the contact rose to the level of a foul.

[Rich]

I watched the game. It was not a patient whistle -- it was "see if the shot goes in, if it doesn't then call the foul." I sure hope this isn't the direction advantage/disadvantage is going.

Of course, I had a similar situation on Saturday night where I gave my partner (the L) a chance to get the foul, waited a bit, then came in and got it from the C position. The coach actually asked me if I waited to see if the shot went in before calling the foul -- I reassured him that I don't officiate that way and I was just giving my partner an extra second or so to get that before I did. He was satisfied with that and life went on.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

I watched the game. It was not a patient whistle -- it was "see if the shot goes in, if it doesn't then call the foul." I sure hope this isn't the direction advantage/disadvantage is going.

Of course, I had a similar situation on Saturday night where I gave my partner (the L) a chance to get the foul, waited a bit, then came in and got it from the C position. The coach actually asked me if I waited to see if the shot went in before calling the foul -- I reassured him that I don't officiate that way and I was just giving my partner an extra second or so to get that before I did. He was satisfied with that and life went on.

You need to log into your regular account.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

I watched the game. It was not a patient whistle -- it was "see if the shot goes in, if it doesn't then call the foul." I sure hope this isn't the direction advantage/disadvantage is going.

I guess you should have been on the game instead.

Oh, that's right. The supervisor put TV on the game, not you.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I guess you should have been on the game instead.

Oh, that's right. The supervisor put TV on the game, not you.

Just making an observation. Not ripping TV -- he's one of my favorites to watch.