You Make The Call

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Every time someone falls we have to have a whistle? I do not think you have to have a whistle if you deem the contact was not illegal.

Peace

It is an NCAA-M "Absolute"...when contact occurs that causes the ball handler to fall/lose control of the ball, you MUST have a whistle.

Even Ray Charles can see that the contact by the defender (who did not have LGP) caused the dribbler to fall and loose the ball.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

It is an NCAA-M "Absolute"...when contact occurs that causes the ball handler to fall/lose control of the ball, you MUST have a whistle.

Even Ray Charles can see that the contact by the defender (who did not have LGP) caused the dribbler to fall and loose the ball.

It is an NCAA absolute if the contact caused the falling. It is not an absolute if you feel the player was off balance and fell. Now you can disagree, but every time someone falls does not make it a foul. I am saying an argument can be made. I guess you have never seen a player try to get somewhere they can't and fall down. I see it all the time and why I had to see the video to be more confident in a foul. Unlike some people when I watch video I watch it to see why a call was made or not made. In the real world we get one shot at the call and that is it. I know I have missed calls before, not sure you know what that means listening to you here.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Even Ray Charles can see that the contact by the defender (who did not have LGP) caused the dribbler to fall and loose the ball.

Wrong. Ray Charles can't see. He's dead. Been dead for eight years. Someone's been watching too many "Walking Dead" episodes.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Wrong. Ray Charles can't see. He's dead. Been dead for eight years.

EXACTLY!!!!! Even a blind, dead-man can see that this was a blocking foul....

[VaTerp]

Haven't read comments yet but this is a very close call in real time.

After watching the replay I think it's clearly a block. In real time, I see why this was passed on and think I may have done the same if I was not sure.

Seeing the ballhandler lose the ball though I think I would have gone block. And again, with the advantage of replay I think that's the correct call.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

It is an NCAA-M "Absolute"...when contact occurs that causes the ball handler to fall/lose control of the ball, you MUST have a whistle.

Every single time? In this play, I have a block but say you have A1 try to drive past a much larger, stationary B1. A1 clips B1 and falls to the floor sending the ball flying. Are you saying that even though A1 is responsible for contact that does not disadvantage B1, a whistle is required on the play?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Every single time? In this play, I have a block but say you have A1 try to drive past a much larger, stationary B1. A1 clips B1 and falls to the floor sending the ball flying. Are you saying that even though A1 is responsible for contact that does not disadvantage B1, a whistle is required on the play?

If B1's leg is outside of his normal stance than yes is would be a foul on B1.

[Welpe]

I understand that but assume it is not and B1 is completely legal.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I understand that but assume it is not and B1 is completely legal.

Then it's nothing.

The Absolute refers to plays where a defender is behind a ball-handler.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Then it's nothing.

The Absolute refers to plays where a defender is behind a ball-handler.

I see what you're saying but that's not what I see in the post I quoted.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I see what you're saying but that's not what I see in the post I quoted.

Yeah, I saw that, that's why I posted. Luckily I don't succumb to GROUPTHINK and just blindly follow other posters.