Slow season coming - rule changes?

[berserkBBK]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not at all....at least no more than anything else we call. Does everyone call handchecking exactly the same way? No. It doesn't have to be an absolutely clear line. The kids will learn to stay away from the boundaries because they will know the risk. If you want to improve character and sportsmanship, you only need to push it in the right directly, not be completely carbon copies.

Usually what you'll have is someone who, themselves, uses profane vocabulary and will refuse to call it because they'd be hypocritical of their own actions in doing so.....“Profanity is a Weak Mind Trying to Express Itself Forcibly”.

I can see that, but I guess I would want a clear line. While you say that the kids would avoid boundaries, I could see it working. I guess I don't see the point. If cursing is said in frustration to themselves I often just say "Watch the language, please" as I walk by. If it is said loud enough, and again only venting to themselves, I will make it known to everyone I am speaking with the player. It never gets worse afterwards. I just wouldn't want these to be a definitive T as it can be taken care of with a quick statement. Now if it was directed at the other team, the crowd, a partner, or myself, I would not hesititate. And even that does not have to be a curse word.

I have worked with a few religious and well educated people that used profanity in the locker room and quietly to me away from players, coaches, and fans. Usually this was used to vent frustration from a coach or a play they may have missed. While I don't use profanity, I am not offended by it unless it is directed at anyone. I smile when a player yells replacement words instead of a curse word. However, people still know what he meant.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by berserkBBK

I can see that, but I guess I would want a clear line. While you say that the kids would avoid boundaries, I could see it working. I guess I don't see the point. If cursing is said in frustration to themselves I often just say "Watch the language, please" as I walk by. If it is said loud enough, and again only venting to themselves, I will make it known to everyone I am speaking with the player. It never gets worse afterwards. I just wouldn't want these to be a definitive T as it can be taken care of with a quick statement. Now if it was directed at the other team, the crowd, a partner, or myself, I would not hesititate. And even that does not have to be a curse word.

I have worked with a few religious and well educated people that used profanity in the locker room and quietly to me away from players, coaches, and fans. Usually this was used to vent frustration from a coach or a play they may have missed. While I don't use profanity, I am not offended by it unless it is directed at anyone. I smile when a player yells replacement words instead of a curse word. However, people still know what he meant.

Sound like we run it the same way....and as I said before, I'm not the one pushing for or arguing FOR this change. I'm just pointing that the reason that have been present for opposing it are not really valid.

[Drizzle]

My rule changes:

1) Timeouts can only be called by players on the court.

2) Adopt the NCAA timing rule so the clock stops for a made basket with under a minute left in the game.

3) Switch from 8 minute quarters to 16 minute halves.

[refiator]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

There's two guys with whom I work who would like to see the clock stop after a basket in the last minute of a game if the point differential is under 10.

That's really splitting hairs IMO.......How can you say that you play 31 minutes w/o a stop clock and suddenly enforce this in the last minute?? And how would you determine what the point spread should be for the clock to stop?

We have a 30 point mercy rule in GHSA...Cut from 8 minutes to 6 minutes in the 4th quarter if the lead is 30 or more. Suppose the lead is 28 after 3 qtrs, and the first play in the 4th quarter makes it a 30 point game....Why not enforce the mercy rule at that point (which we don't do)? There are just so many variables that could be changed to make the game more "fair" or "fan friendly". You can't get away from subjectivity no matter what you do........
I have no answers, just opinions, as the rest of us do.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by berserkBBK

I can see that, but I guess I would want a clear line. While you say that the kids would avoid boundaries, I could see it working. I guess I don't see the point. If cursing is said in frustration to themselves I often just say "Watch the language, please" as I walk by. If it is said loud enough, and again only venting to themselves, I will make it known to everyone I am speaking with the player. It never gets worse afterwards. I just wouldn't want these to be a definitive T as it can be taken care of with a quick statement. Now if it was directed at the other team, the crowd, a partner, or myself, I would not hesititate. And even that does not have to be a curse word.

I have worked with a few religious and well educated people that used profanity in the locker room and quietly to me away from players, coaches, and fans. Usually this was used to vent frustration from a coach or a play they may have missed. While I don't use profanity, I am not offended by it unless it is directed at anyone. I smile when a player yells replacement words instead of a curse word. However, people still know what he meant.

Usually the way I do it and problems tend to stop. I talk to players all the time about their behavior if they are borderline and they know where I stand.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

I guess this would be for both FED and NCAA. How about eliminating the ability to inbound into the back court on a throw in after the ball has been advanced to the front court?

And/or - eliminating both the 10 second back court count and the five second closely guarded count in games that have a shot clock. Having all those counts seems redundant.

[amusedofficial]

Agree:
--Stop clock after made basket near end of game, two min. sounds about right
--T/O only by players on court

Disagree:
--Halves stead quarters. Keep quarters. Some states do Q to enable jv/v splitting

Wish list:
--Get rid of the three point arc. I heard one writer saying there was talk about abolishing the DH, if that's true they can get rid of this travesty too.

--Get rid of the arrow. Tie 'em up, you deserve an equal shot at possession at the precise spot in the game; jump it up.

--three for two on tenth foul

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

Agree:
--Stop clock after made basket near end of game, two min. sounds about right
--T/O only by players on court

Disagree:
--Halves stead quarters. Keep quarters. Some states do Q to enable jv/v splitting

Wish list:
--Get rid of the three point arc. I heard one writer saying there was talk about abolishing the DH, if that's true they can get rid of this travesty too.

--Get rid of the arrow. Tie 'em up, you deserve an equal shot at possession at the precise spot in the game; jump it up.

--three for two on tenth foul

Get rid of the 3-point arc? Really????

[APG]

I never get people that want to eliminate the three point line.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I never get people that want to eliminate the three point line.

I don't either. I hate to say this, but that is one of the dumbest requests people can make. The game is not just a big man's game with the 3 point line.

Peace

[Jeremy Hohn]

Shot clock all the way across for the NF.

Please put some type of running clock when margins get over 40.

Rest is good.

[Mark Padgett]

Coach A forgot to use the metric alphabet when entering his players names into the scorebook so none of his players are actually entered correctly. Therefore, team B starts the game by shooting 1.67 shots for each incorrect entry, then they get the ball 3 meters from the division line. I would suggest the rule expand to include team A having to provide 2.53 muffins for each of the officials in this case. What do you guys think?

BTW - has anyone seen my meds?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Hohn

Shot clock all the way across for the NF.

As long as you pay for all the high schools to buy these, it might happen.