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Mark Padgett Thu Mar 01, 2012 02:30pm

Slow season coming - rule changes?
 
Well, as we all know, it's just about the end of the season. I have two more weekends of my local kids rec league games and then nothing until a spring kids rec league starts in mid-April. I really don't know what to do till then except wait to see any rule changes for next season. Having said that, maybe we can make this a thread for NF rule change suggestions.

I'll start. AP throw-in. If the offensive team commits a foul, they keep the arrow. If they commit a throw-in violation, they lose the arrow. I think it should be one way or the other in both instances. A pretty minor point, but it seems it would make it easier to remember and it does seem equitible.

OK - who's next?

Terrapins Fan Thu Mar 01, 2012 02:39pm

Drop the 10 second count for FT.

It's a complete waste of time.

Adam Thu Mar 01, 2012 02:47pm

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan (Post 829125)
Drop the 10 second count for FT.

It's a complete waste of time.

Disagree. Without it, teams would have unlimited time outs.

APG Thu Mar 01, 2012 02:48pm

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan (Post 829125)
Drop the 10 second count for FT.

It's a complete waste of time.

No timeouts left? No problem...take your time at the line!

Hugh Refner Thu Mar 01, 2012 02:55pm

What about all player unsportsmanlike technical fouls also counting as indirect technicals against the HC? Shouldn't he (or she) have the same responsibility for the behavior of players on the floor as on the bench? Really, what's the difference? As it stands now, there's more of a total penalty if a player misbehaves on the bench vs. him (or her) misbehaving on the court. The player could exhibit the exact same behavior and the strength of the penalty depends on where the player was occupying space at the time.

bainsey Thu Mar 01, 2012 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by Hugh Refner (Post 829137)
What about all player unsportsmanlike technical fouls also counting as indirect technicals against the HC? Shouldn't he (or she) have the same responsibility for the behavior of players on the floor as on the bench? Really, what's the difference?

The difference is, the coach isn't within a few feet to tell the kid to shut up.

You can't blame the coach for everything.

tref Thu Mar 01, 2012 03:15pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 829143)
The difference is, the coach isn't within a few feet to tell the kid to shut up.

You can't blame the coach for everything.

Gotta admit, I like it how it is currently for the same reason.

Mark Padgett Thu Mar 01, 2012 03:34pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 829143)
You can't blame the coach for everything.

Then how about an indirect on the parent? :rolleyes:

tw1ns Thu Mar 01, 2012 03:39pm

Iowa rule. 35 point differential rule for girls. Running clock. Not just for boys.

Mark Padgett Thu Mar 01, 2012 03:45pm

OK, I'm not promoting this one, but.......
 
There's two guys with whom I work who would like to see the clock stop after a basket in the last minute of a game if the point differential is under 10.

They mentioned this after they worked a game in which a team scored with just under five seconds left to cut their deficit to one point and the other team didn't go to the ball and let the clock run out. My response to them telling me this was "So what? It's part of the game. They could have requested a timeout immediately after the ball went through the hoop". (I asked and they said the team was out of timeouts, and taking the T for requesting one would not really have helped)

If this ever passes, good luck working with the timekeepers on it.

Rich Thu Mar 01, 2012 04:05pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 829154)
There's two guys with whom I work who would like to see the clock stop after a basket in the last minute of a game if the point differential is under 10.

They mentioned this after they worked a game in which a team scored with just under five seconds left to cut their deficit to one point and the other team didn't go to the ball and let the clock run out. My response to them telling me this was "So what? It's part of the game. They could have requested a timeout immediately after the ball went through the hoop". (I asked and they said the team was out of timeouts, and taking the T for requesting one would not really have helped)

If this ever passes, good luck working with the timekeepers on it.

Believe it or not, this is the first change I'd put in place if I was king. Too many time, there's timing issues when timeouts are called after made baskets in the last minute of a tightly contested game. I *love* the NCAA rule.

JRutledge Thu Mar 01, 2012 04:22pm

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan (Post 829125)
Drop the 10 second count for FT.

It's a complete waste of time.

I disagree as well. We would see teams take much longer if they knew they had no time limit. At least now they know they have a time limit and it usually is not a big deal, but I would not all it a waste of time.

Peace

JRutledge Thu Mar 01, 2012 04:25pm

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Originally Posted by tw1ns (Post 829151)
Iowa rule. 35 point differential rule for girls. Running clock. Not just for boys.

We have a 30 point rule that only applies to the 4th Quarter in tournament games before February starts. I would not want to see such a rule for boys games at all during non-post season games. Games do not take that long and it gives coaches a chance to play kids that have not played without taking away their time. Games do not take that long either way it goes.

Peace

letemplay Thu Mar 01, 2012 04:33pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 829161)
Believe it or not, this is the first change I'd put in place if I was king. Too many time, there's timing issues when timeouts are called after made baskets in the last minute of a tightly contested game. I *love* the NCAA rule.


I agree as well. Far easier imo, for timekeeper to shut clock off after made basket then it is for them to know when to try to get it stopped in that hectic few seconds when a coach is screaming for the TO. Timekeeper probably hears it in some cases when official does not, but cannot stop it until seeing/hearing a signal. I've seen a lot of confusing situations this would remedy. I'm ready to vote now:)

Mark Padgett Thu Mar 01, 2012 06:08pm

Hey - here's a thought
 
Maybe the NF should just adopt the rules from my local kids rec league 3rd/4th grade level. All games would then be running clock, no coaching box, up to 5 seconds in the lane allowed, free throws shot from a line two feet shorter, baskets are at 9 feet, no 5 second closely guarded count, no back court guarding and no zone defenses. Let me tell you, there's relatively few fouls and the games go by really quickly.

Of course we still don't allow dunking during warmups. :D


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