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*What if a player swears at a teammate? *What if a player misses a shot and curses out loud to himself? *What if a player curses after making a bad pass? Every question was met with the same answer: "What does 'zero tolerance' mean?" I have to say, two years in, I like the rule. The kids adjusted very fast. Eliminating calls where I gave a T to a kid/coach for swearing at an opponent or me I'd say I've called 15 or so. As for the cultural aspect of things, I don't buy it. Black (which I am), White, Brown or Other the kids will respond if you set a boundary and hold to it. We remind them in the pregame swearing isn't allowed (I also tell them that includes the "N" word). If we bang the first one to do it, anyone who didn't understand gets with the program fast. |
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It doesn't matter. If we were told to just call it and all officials simply call it, it will go away and there will be no discussion. Officials wouldn't have to agree on what was profane.
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That would be inconsistent, and I don't want to say what words are unexceptable at every pre game coaches/captains meeting. One game a kid yells "darn" it after he misses a free throw and doesn't get a T because no one sees it as profane. Next game he says it and gets whacked by the offended official. Or even worse, a partner whacks him the next time down when he gets beat and gives up an easy dunk and says the same thing.
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You don't have to get people to agree they profane anymore than you have to convince someone that doing a chin-up on the rim is unsportsmanlike. Just as long as everyone calls the T when they see the chin-up, it works out.
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Usually what you'll have is someone who, themselves, uses profane vocabulary and will refuse to call it because they'd be hypocritical of their own actions in doing so.....“Profanity is a Weak Mind Trying to Express Itself Forcibly”.
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(And I'm not actually promoting such an idea, just discounting the reasons a few others are claiming why it couldn't/wouldn't work).
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Non religious people know words that religious people don't like and the only real reason to still use them is to shove it in their face.....those words actually only come from religious contexts as they mean absolutely nothing outside of it....so those words only express something when considered religiously. If you're not religious, why invoke religious language.
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As I mentioned before I am Black and I officiate in the NYC public schools. I've worked those games for about 20 years and I also work in Hudson County, NJ. To say those are heavily ethnic areas would be an understatement. There's certain slang you'll hear when moving from neighborhood to neighborhood but there are some words which are used in every community. Those are the words you adjudicate, regardless of whether people think it's proper to use them in their 'hood. If there are words/phrases you don't understand then you don't deal with them but you also ask around so the next time the term comes up you know whether it can become an issue. As for "language inner city kids might say that are not the common words," I just tell them they're not being used in my game that day. That's why in an earlier post I said in my PSAL pregame I tell kids the no profanity mandate includes the N-word. I'm perfectly aware kids in certain neighborhoods use that on a regular basis but if I set the standard from the start it's not a problem. As I said before, there are profane words which transcend cultures. Those are forbidden in every game and the kids know that. Once they get out of the habit of using those, the others which may not be as cross-cultural start going away as well. Also, there are cultural habits which have already been dealt with in the NFHS rule book. Remember the "Fab 5" and wearing your shorts below your waist or your jersey outside your shorts? 3-3-5. Frayed t-shirts under your jersey? 3-5-6. Wristband on your bicep? 3-5-4c. The time-honored tradition of trash talking? 10-3-6c. I'm sure 10-3-6g - the smokeless tobacco rule - falls in there somewhere as well. As Camron said, if we enforce them the kids adjust...the same way they adjust to the way we call contact, hand checks, etc. If a kid uses one of the well-known words, gets a T and asks us why, we tell them they can't use it durnig the game. Either they'll stop or they won't play. |
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