Clean Block or a Foul?

[Spence]

From the KU/Mizzou game Saturday.

Clean or foul?

Missouri Tigers vs. Kansas Jayhawks - Recap - February 25, 2012 - ESPN

[twocentsworth]

Defender goes straight up; shooter was responsible for the contact; good block on the ball..... I got nothing on this play.

[VaTerp]

I have a no call and it's really not close.

[APG]

Here's the play slowed down for convenience:

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Defender goes straight up; shooter was responsible for the contact; good block on the ball..... I got nothing on this play.

The shooter is not responsible for the contact on this play, because it's a RA play, and the shooter's contact is not flagrant.

[berserkBBK]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

The shooter is not responsible for the contact on this play, because it's a RA play, and the shooter's contact is not flagrant.

Are you saying this as just a point or do you have a foul on the defense for this?
I have a clean block even with the RA, so I am confused by your statement.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by berserkBBK

Are you saying this as just a point or do you have a foul on the defense for this?
I have a clean block even with the RA, so I am confused by your statement.

I'm not decided yet. I'm trying to translate it in my brain to a women's game. But to say that the shooter is responsible for the contact here implies that if a foul is to be called that it's a PC foul if anything, and that the defender, by virtue of having verticality, cannot be called for a blocking foul, which is not the case, as he established IGP in the RA, and the contact occured while he was over the RA. I'm not a great judge of men's plays like this though, I'll admit. I'd be curious to see it as a video play on Arbiter by Adams.

I'd like to twist it and hear opinions of the play by completely removing the block of the ball.

[APG]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

I'm not decided yet. I'm trying to translate it in my brain to a women's game. But to say that the shooter is responsible for the contact here implies that if a foul is to be called that it's a PC foul if anything, and that the defender, by virtue of having verticality, cannot be called for a blocking foul, which is not the case, as he established IGP in the RA, and the contact occured while he was over the RA. I'm not a great judge of men's plays like this though, I'll admit. I'd be curious to see it as a video play on Arbiter by Adams.

I'd like to twist it and hear opinions of the play by completely removing the block of the ball.

How could you have a foul on the defender? The purpose of the RA is to stop secondary defenders from trying to draw a charge close to the basket. A defender is allowed to jump in an attempt to block the shot without worrying if he's in the RA or not.