NCAA/NFHS Differences

[letemplay]

I have two questions regarding how the college rule differs from high school:

1) Playing with a hard cast, eventhough padded?

2) Subbing for a fouled player that is unable to take his free throws due to injury?

Thanks in advance for your comments.

[stiffler3492]

Not sure about the cast, but with injury, the opposing coach gets to choose who shoots the free throw. This happened last night in the Florida State game.

[bob jenkins]

1) Approximately the same:

Art. 2.

Elbow, hand, finger, wrist or forearm guards, casts or braces made of fiberglass, plaster, metal or any other non-pliable substance, shall be prohibited.cached
Art. 3.

The prohibition of the use of hard substance material does not apply to the upper arm, shoulder or leg when the material is padded so as not to create a hazard for other players.
Art. 4.

Pliable (flexible or easily bent) material, covered on all exterior sides and edges with no less than 1/2-inch thickness of a slow-rebounding foam, may be used to immobilize and protect an injury.
Art. 5.

Equipment that could cut or cause an injury to another player shall be prohibited, without respect to whether the equipment is hard. Excessively long fingernails shall be prohibited


2) NCAAM -- opposing coach chooses from the 4 other players on the floor. NCAAW -- same as FED.

[letemplay]

Thanks Bob, but I'm confused on the injury replacement. You say the opposing coach chooses between the other 4 on the floor? What about players on bench? (this IS about VT-FSU, last night)

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Thanks Bob, but I'm confused on the injury replacement. You say the opposing coach chooses between the other 4 on the floor? What about players on bench? (this IS about VT-FSU, last night)

If the player is injured, then the opposing coach chooses from among the other 4 on the floor. If the player has blood, then the sub shoots. Don't know, nor do I care, about VT-FSU last night.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Thanks Bob, but I'm confused on the injury replacement. You say the opposing coach chooses between the other 4 on the floor? What about players on bench? (this IS about VT-FSU, last night)

To answer your question you need to describe what happened. There are variables that apply.

[tjones1]

Just to add to #2...

The opposing coach chooses unless a foul is intentional or flagrant.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If the player is injured, then the opposing coach chooses from among the other 4 on the floor. If the player has blood, then the sub shoots. Don't know, nor do I care, about VT-FSU last night.

Eventhough you don't care about VT-FSU (It was a bit hard to watch, I'll admit), a VT player was fouled, but also suffered, I believe, severe leg cramping and stayed down and was attended to for a several minutes before it was decided he could not attempt his two free throws. Announcers said FSU coach picked a vt player from bench (a 60%'er) to shoot the shots. He missed both, leading to FSU's last second game winner. Are you saying in this sitch, only one of the other 4 on floor should have shot these? Also, at what time, or how long does an injured player have to sit on the court and try to recover from the injury to be able to still go to line? The injured/removed vt player was a mid-80's ft shooter, so obviously they would have liked him there if at all possible.

[letemplay]

Sorry, I've since found out that the sub for the shooter WAS in the game at the time. I think the tv crew may have added to the confusion because they were talking about the opposing coach choosing anyone on bench and they were showing the subs that hadn't even been in the game yet. Still like to know the ruling on how long an injured player has to "recover" in order to stay in game and shoot his own ft's.

[bob jenkins]

Was anyone beckoned? They can call a TO to keep an injured player in the game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Sorry, I've since found out that the sub for the shooter WAS in the game at the time. I think the tv crew may have added to the confusion because they were talking about the opposing coach choosing anyone on bench and they were showing the subs that hadn't even been in the game yet. Still like to know the ruling on how long an injured player has to "recover" in order to stay in game and shoot his own ft's.

I know in HS, once I've made the decision to replace him, coach gets to choose whether or not to take a TO to keep him in. It's a judgment call, and there's no set time limit. I base it completely on the apparent severity of the injury, and whether the coach comes on or not.

Once that decision is made, the coach essentially has the same amount of time it takes the trainers to get the player off of the floor.

[APG]

NCAA Rules (2011-2013)
Rule 3, Section 4

Art. 3. Required Substitutions
f. (Men) When an injured player is unable to attempt his free throw try(s), the coach from the opposing team shall select one of the four remaining players on the playing court to attempt the free throw try(s). When the foul is flagrant and the injured player is unable to attempt the free throw try(s), the injured player’s coach shall select any player or team member to attempt the free throw try(s).

[Welpe]

A lesson here: always be skeptical about a rule interpretation from an announcer.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

NCAA Rules (2011-2013)
Rule 3, Section 4

Art. 3. Required Substitutions
f. (Men) When an injured player is unable to attempt his free throw try(s), the coach from the opposing team shall select one of the four remaining players on the playing court to attempt the free throw try(s). When the foul is flagrant and the injured player is unable to attempt the free throw try(s), the injured player’s coach shall select any player or team member to attempt the free throw try(s).

Where is this in the NHSA book? I can't find it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Where is this in the NHSA book? I can't find it.

You can't find it because it's not there.