knee travel

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by phansen

NFHS

A1 and B1 scramble for a loose ball. A1 gains possession while on his knees but is off balance and falls to the floor. Is this a travel? 4.44 discusses trying to get up after being on the floor and what you can do while on the floor. I tend to think this is a travel, just looking for confirmation.

No, it's not travelling. IT's travelling to have other than the hands or feet touch the floor after gaining posession. But, it's not traveliing to gain posession with something other than the hands or feet and then have soemtiing else touch the floor.

[kkrenzke]

Gotta call the travel on this one, falling and then passing would be considered an "advantage gained."

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No, it's not travelling. It's travelling to have other than the hands or feet touch the floor after gaining posession. But, it's not traveling to gain posession with something other than the hands or feet and then have someething else touch the floor.

Bob:

I think that this may be a situation that can best be described as HTBT. That said. My reasoning for my ruling is this:

Lets look at a couple plays:

1) A1 has both feet on the floor but is off balance when he gains control of the ball and continues to fall and lands on his tuchus. His feet never move but we have traveling none-the-less.

2) A1 has gains control of the ball while both of his knees are in contact with the floor but is not off balance. The then moves one or both of his knees along the floor without raising either knee off of the floor. Again, we have traveling.

I believe the "falling off balance" is the key to the OP. I do believe that one could advance the argument that A1's actions could be construed as diving for a loose ball while already on the floor and his momentum caused him to have the rest of his body land on the floor, similar to a player's momentum caused him to slid or roll along the floor.

MTD, Sr.