Remember: Stay alive during end-of-game situations...

[JetMetFan]

There's video of this on YouTube but you really can't see the clock issue. R1 passed the ball to R2 OOB along the end line. The clock started when R2 caught the ball. The half-second which ran off was most likely the difference between Rider's shot being ruled good.

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EDISON, N.J. (AP) -- The Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference has suspended the three officials who worked Sunday's Rider-Niagara game where a late clock error changed the outcome.
The MAAC said in a statement Monday that the officials will miss one game for failure to note the game clock starting early on the key inbounds play in the final seconds.
Ali Langford's dunk with 3.7 seconds left gave Niagara an 84-82 lead. Following a Rider timeout, the game clock started before the Broncs inbounded the ball but it wasn't noticed. Jonathan Thompson hit a 3-pointer at the buzzer that would have given Rider the win, but after a TV review, officials ruled time had expired before Thompson released the shot.
The MAAC also publicly reprimanded Niagara's game clock operator and replay system operator for failure to manage the clock and replay system in the expected manner. A school spokesman did not release the names of the two on Monday.
The win came six days after Brandon Penn's 3-pointer with 1 second left gave Rider a 74-73 win over Niagara.

[Refsmitty]

If that happens and we know it... what do we do?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

If that happens and we know it... what do we do?

If you see it, blow the play dead immediately then have the timer reset the clock.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

If that happens and we know it... what do we do?

Fix it and resume play.

[KJUmp]

I thought in D1 that the clock was started by the wireless device that's on the officials waistband?

A mini-season ticket package (with seats near one of the end lines) gets me to several D1 games per year at a nearby A10 school. I've noticed how the official administering a throw-in is doing his five second count with one hand, while the other hand is on the device, and then have observed the "chop" and the flick of the device switch when the throw in has been legally touched in-bounds. So, I've always thought that the on floor officials were starting the clock.

Is that in fact the case?

Can someone fill me in as just how those devices work, and the whole clock starting procedure when those devices are being used in a game?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

I thought in D1 that the clock was started by the wireless device that's on the officials waistband?

A mini-season ticket package (with seats near one of the end lines) gets me to several D1 games per year at a nearby A10 school. I've noticed how the official administering a throw-in is doing his five second count with one hand, while the other hand is on the device, and then have observed the "chop" and the flick of the device switch when the throw in has been legally touched in-bounds. So, I've always thought that the on floor officials were starting the clock.

Is that in fact the case?

Can someone fill me in as just how those devices work, and the whole clock starting procedure when those devices are being used in a game?

Not every conference uses the PTS.

I've never used it, so I can't explain any other intricacies of it that may impact a play like this, either.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

I thought in D1 that the clock was started by the wireless device that's on the officials waistband?

A mini-season ticket package (with seats near one of the end lines) gets me to several D1 games per year at a nearby A10 school. I've noticed how the official administering a throw-in is doing his five second count with one hand, while the other hand is on the device, and then have observed the "chop" and the flick of the device switch when the throw in has been legally touched in-bounds. So, I've always thought that the on floor officials were starting the clock.

Is that in fact the case?

Can someone fill me in as just how those devices work, and the whole clock starting procedure when those devices are being used in a game?

The timer is still supposed to start the clock. Us hitting the button on the PTS is more of a failsafe in case the timer falls asleep. The more important aspect of the PTS is that the clock stops when we blow our whistles.

There are lower level schools who also use the PTS. My last PTS game a player requested a time-out and I blew my whistle but then for some reason I reached for the button and pressed it which started the clock again.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The timer is still supposed to start the clock. Us hitting the button on the PTS is more of a failsafe in case the timer falls asleep.

My limited experience is the reverse of this. The clock operator is the failsafe for the officials' pressing the PTS button on the pack. Especially important for close, end of game situations where teams may be delaying touching the throw-in to prevent the clock from starting. I don't want the table starting it when I'm 8 feet from the touch/no touch. - And that's covered in the locker room with the table crew.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

My limited experience is the reverse of this. The clock operator is the failsafe for the officials' pressing the PTS button on the pack.

I have heard from clock operators as it being the same as BNR describes. I know at least one arena has it setup that the timer starts the clock but it will stop again if the official does not push the PTS button.

[The_Rookie]

The Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference has suspended the three officials who worked Sunday's Rider-Niagara game where a late clock error changed the outcome.

The MAAC said in a statement Monday that the officials — listed on the box score as Rusty Cooper, Tony Crisp and Kenneth Clark — will miss one game for failure to note the game clock starting early on the key inbounds play in the final seconds.

Ali Langford's dunk with 3.7 seconds left gave Niagara an 84-82 lead. Following a Rider timeout, the game clock started before the Broncs inbounded the ball but it wasn't noticed. Jonathan Thompson hit a 3-pointer at the buzzer that would have given Rider the win, but after a TV review, officials ruled time had expired before Thompson released the shot.

The MAAC also publicly reprimanded Niagara's game clock operator and replay system operator for failure to manage the clock and replay system in the expected manner. A school spokesman did not release the names of the two on Monday.

[Raymond]

Remember: Stay alive during end-of-game situations....

Dang, I know 2 of those officials.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

A school spokesman did not release the names of the two on Monday.

Fair is fair, they were not blameless either.

[bgredmchn]

What rule prevents this being changed if no official noticed it and they spend 7 minutes looking at the replay? They must have seen the clock started before it should have.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by bgredmchn

What rule prevents this being changed if no official noticed it and they spend 7 minutes looking at the replay? They must have seen the clock started before it should have.

They would have to have been aware of the clock situation before they went to the monitor in order to deal with it. They were only going to the monitor because they're required to do so in the case of a shot being taken near the expiration of the half.

The first bullet point under using the monitor (at least in the women's game) under NCAA guidelines from this year's clinic is "Determine what is being reviewed." Basically, you can't go to the monitor looking for one thing and then deal with another.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bgredmchn

What rule prevents this being changed if no official noticed it and they spend 7 minutes looking at the replay? They must have seen the clock started before it should have.

If you didn't notice / suspect it before you went to the monitor, you'd only look at the last second (or so) of the play -- not the error that happened 3 seconds earlier. IOW, you'd start at about the time the plaeyer who shot caught the ball (or the pass was thrown to him); you wouldn[t go all the way back to the inbounds play.