T after final horn changes outcome

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

So, what would you have done?

Better that they learn the lesson in 5th grade, than in 12th grade.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Better that they learn the lesson in 5th grade, than in 12th grade.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over this one, that's for sure.

[just another ref]

Not much else you could have done. My take? What's the technical for? Is this act unsportsmanlike? I don't think so. It's an act of jubilation.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by just another ref

My take? What's the technical for? Is this act unsportsmanlike? I don't think so. It's an act of jubilation.

There it is.

Unlike other sports, the NFHS basketball rule set has nothing against "excessive celebration." NFHS 10-3-6c says baiting or taunting is illegal, not celebrating. In fact, penalizing this only perpetuates a rule myth.

Had the kid spiked the ball in an opponent's face, then I have a T. Otherwise, I have nothing.

[tref]

One thing is for sure, win or lose this kid will never spike the ball again

[JugglingReferee]

I'd pass on that one. The only thing you can do is try to "offer" more information to your partner.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

One thing is for sure, win or lose this kid will never spike the ball again

Agreed, I probably wouldn't have called it; but I have no problem with the call in a fifth grade game. That coach also learned the final horn doesn't mean unsporting behavior goes unpunished; assuming he can do the math.

It's not like he rang the kid up for untucking his jersey.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's not like he rang the kid up for untucking his jersey.

Don't confuse the rookies. They think of esteemed Forum members, like you, as infallible basketball official gods.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Not much else you could have done. My take? What's the technical for? Is this act unsportsmanlike? I don't think so. It's an act of jubilation.

That's my question. If the kid spikes the ball in an opponent's face or does something anyone would be able to tell was taunting, I can see ringing him up. That part of the equation isn't mentioned in the OP.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

That's my question. If the kid spikes the ball in an opponent's face or does something anyone would be able to tell was taunting, I can see ringing him up. That part of the equation isn't mentioned in the OP.

In my judgment, the spiking of the ball was done in jubilation, not to taunt. It was a big road upset for a team in need of a win to clinch a playoff spot (they did get in anyway as the last team in) and I think the kid was just happy to "win".

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Better that they learn the lesson in 5th grade, than in 12th grade.

Who, the official?

The kid spiked the ball *in celebration* of the win. So what exactly did the kid do that warranted a technical foul?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Not much else you could have done. My take? What's the technical for? Is this act unsportsmanlike? I don't think so. It's an act of jubilation.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Who, the official?

The kid spiked the ball *in celebration* of the win. So what exactly did the kid do that warranted a technical foul?

I don't read "jubilation" or "in celebration" in the OP, so I was giving the official the benefit of the doubt. Most times (but not all, for sure), throwing the ball up in the air = celebration; spiking the ball = frustration / taunting.

[fiasco]

Personally, spiking the ball by the winning team would have to be accompanied by some sort of gesture, statement, or something like intentionally doing it right in front of a losing player that could be considered taunting for me to issue a T.

Otherwise, I'm just leaving it alone.