What do you got?

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Toren

What could the L do? If he suspected the ball went in but his T and his C who had much better angles acted like it didn't and the one player in white acted like he didn't.

It looks like from the video, he gave his thoughts to the C and the T and the call was no good.

Anything else he could have done?

It looked to me like the L thought it went in the whole time, based on his body language —*he didn't move to run back up the other way (like you normally would on a steal) ... he waited, as if he was waiting for the other team to take the ball OOB for the throw-in after a made basket.

Whether or not he knew, of course, is another story.

There is a difference between coaches protesting calls and PROTESTING calls ... this one is the latter. You have to recognize these situations and realize that more than likely you have screwed up if the coach, fans, everyone are saying the ball went in. Dozens of people aren't going to lie about that. Go to the table, get some information (someone at the table saw the ball go in, I guarantee you), and fix the problem!

[Loudwhistle2]

[QUOTE=Brad;823810]It looked to me like the L thought it went in the whole time, based on his body language —*he didn't move to run back up the other way (like you normally would on a steal) ... he waited, as if he was waiting for the other team to take the ball OOB for the throw-in after a made basket.

Brad,
If you were lead and you thought the basket was good. What would you do if the ball was not taken out properly?

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

Brad,
If you were lead and you thought the basket was good. What would you do if the ball was not taken out properly?

Blow my whistle and instruct the other team to take the ball OOB for a throw-in.

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by Brad

Blow my whistle and instruct the other team to take the ball OOB for a throw-in.

Agreed, this is one reason I thought the basket wasn't good. Its been proven since that it was. No reaction from the lead made me think it just skimmed the net. And to be totally honest, when I first watched the video I was looking for a foul.

[Toren]

Who is judging basket interference? My C and T would have clearly missed that call if it occured. Nobody was looking at the rim.

The offensive player doesn't committ a basket interference, but given the play it was quite possible and someone should have anticipated that likely outcome.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Toren

Who is judging basket interference? My C and T would have clearly missed that call if it occured. Nobody was looking at the rim.

The offensive player doesn't committ a basket interference, but given the play it was quite possible and someone should have anticipated that likely outcome.

True, but in transition this is tough. The C has a potential pass and crash he needs to watch for. When he sees the ball passed (rather than shot), he's not going to watch the ball most times. Seems to me, this is on T, but I'm not sure where he is. I'm guessing he was just shy of the division line when the ball went in.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

True, but in transition this is tough. The C has a potential pass and crash he needs to watch for. When he sees the ball passed (rather than shot), he's not going to watch the ball most times. Seems to me, this is on L, but I'm not sure where he is. I'm guessing he was just shy of the division line when the ball went in.

I assume you meant the T on this, but that would make sense since he said "I think it went in" during our conference. That puts me a bit more at ease, I'm just not sure he would have blown the whistle for BI, if it had occured.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Brad

You have to recognize these situations and realize that more than likely you have screwed up if the coach, fans, everyone are saying the ball went in. Dozens of people aren't going to lie about that. Go to the table, get some information (someone at the table saw the ball go in, I guarantee you), and fix the problem!

+1

Grandma always said, "everybody aint crazy."

Originally Posted by Toren

If the three officials don't know and they go to the table...the table is final decision correct?

So if the table says "no goal" then we don't have a goal.

The R is the final decision. Table says no, 3 officials say no... no basket.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by tref

+1

The R is the final decision. Table says no, 3 officials say no... no basket.

I thought that we only used the table as a last resort. And if we use the table and they have a definitely answer, we do not go against them.

So in this case, the three officials do not know. They go to the table and the table says "basket good" then they count it. They go to the table and the table says "basket no good" then they don't count it.

If you go to the table and they say "basket good", the three officials wouldn't discount it because the only reason to go to the table is when the three officials could not decide.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Toren

I thought that we only used the table as a last resort. And if we use the table and they have a definitely answer, we do not go against them.

Excluding local listings, by rule the R has the final say on whether or not to count the bucket.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Excluding local listings, by rule the R has the final say on whether or not to count the bucket.

The R decides whether to count it if the officials disagree. If one official knows it went in, and the others don't have clue; then it went in.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The R decides whether to count it if the officials disagree. If one official knows it went in, and the others don't have clue; then it went in.

You are correct, what I meant but failed to write was that the R has the final say between disagreeing officials and the table. The table can supply information but they don't have any kind of final say.

Edit: Man, I can't believe basketball season is over already. I really enjoyed this one and was not ready for it to be over.