The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 02:33pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins View Post
Hold the ball between your hands and raise both index fingers
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.
__________________
I gotta new attitude!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 02:40pm
(Something hilarious)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: These United States
Posts: 1,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.
I think it does if you do it right. And add the same both index finger signal toward the table after you back out.
__________________
I can't remember the last time I wasn't at least kind-of tired.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 02:41pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP View Post
I think it does if you do it right. And add the same both index finger signal toward the table after you back out.
+1 That will definitely show up!

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeschmit View Post
I use the, "Hold the ball between your hands and raise both index fingers" method as well. However, I also look to the table as I'm backing out to my position under the basket and signal to them that we have a one and one situation with my two index fingers raised. This does show up well on video.
Yup!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ballgame99 View Post
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?
What if it hits the backboard first?
We dont coach.
__________________
I gotta new attitude!

Last edited by tref; Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 02:44pm.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 03:11pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 121
Great thread. I usually verbalize "Bonus 1 and 1" But know I should subtract one of these. Should I just say the word "Bonus" or go with "1 and 1"
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 02:41pm
Eschew obfuscation.
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: IL
Posts: 304
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.
I use the, "Hold the ball between your hands and raise both index fingers" method as well. However, I also look to the table as I'm backing out to my position under the basket and signal to them that we have a one and one situation with my two index fingers raised. This does show up well on video.

EDIT: HawkeyeCub beat me to it!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 03:02pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.
Has this ever really been an issue?
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 03:11pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells View Post
Has this ever really been an issue?
Had a situation a few seasons ago where I said 1 & 1, while holding the ball & indicating as others have stated. The defenders were the only ones to move on the miss & the shooting teams players/coach swore I said 2. Unfortunately the single camera shot was from opposite table, so when I backed out, that didnt show up either.

Thats all, just a negative personal experience.
__________________
I gotta new attitude!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:41am
We don't rent pigs
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,627
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.
Try having the free throw shooter hold the camera.
__________________
I swear, Gus, you'd argue with a possum.
It'd be easier than arguing with you, Woodrow.


Lonesome Dove
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:50am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 184
When administering a one and one, I quote 9-1-4 verbatim. None of this "hit the rim" nonsense. Too vague.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 08:52am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 121
So you just say 9 dash 1 dash 4.. And then bounce the ball?
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 12:07am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 247
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.
1 - On tape is it possible to see the difference between an official signaling 1 or 2 throws with one hand? It seems as if most videos are filmed from the last row of the stands and are zoomed out so one can see about half of the court at one time so there would be no way to tell how many fingers the official is holding up.

2 - Miscommunications also occur when an official signals the correct number of throws yet says the wrong number. There is no way that will show up on the video tape.

It seems as if a lot of people on this forum are overly concerned with video tapes not being able to prove that they didn't make a mistake. If someone thinks you made a mistake then it is up to them to actually show the mistake. If you said and signaled the correct number of throws then you have nothing to worry about, the video will not disprove you. You don't need to worry that maybe your signal didn't show up on the video.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 12:38am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 121
What? Yea I usually hold up 2 fingers and say ahhhh right boys we got one shot here.. c'mon man
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 08:41pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 247
Quote:
Originally Posted by onetime1 View Post
What? Yea I usually hold up 2 fingers and say ahhhh right boys we got one shot here.. c'mon man
Well you must be pretty bad if you do it every time.

Outside of your bubble officials sometimes say one number and signal a different number. Sometimes the official says and signals the correct number but a player believes the official said a different number.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ref Signal - #2 eyezen Basketball 20 Thu Feb 01, 2007 08:46am
What is the signal? ncump7 Basketball 9 Tue Nov 21, 2006 02:22pm
Signal 29 & 35 alabamabluezebra Football 5 Sat Sep 03, 2005 07:10am
Tip signal... thumpferee Basketball 6 Sat Jan 08, 2005 04:13am
What's the signal joe bonner Football 3 Mon Sep 23, 2002 09:17am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:10pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1