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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:12pm
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Failure to award a second free throw

Team A is on the line late in the first half for 2 shots. After the 1st shot the ball is rebounded and Team B gets it and takes a last second shot at the buzzer. After both teams are off the court the referees realize that the 2nd shot never took place.

I don't have my books with me at work, so how does the second half begin.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:16pm
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One free throw with the lane cleared.

AP throw in at the division line.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:17pm
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Not a great CE official, but Id think we would award the merited FT lane spaces empty & go to the arrow.


What Snaqs said.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:19pm
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I believe that once the first half ends, the statue of limitations on this particular correctable error expires.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:20pm
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I believe that once the first half ends, the statue of limitations on this particular correctable error expires.
Pretty sure there's a case play on this that says the time frame to correct the error has not passed. You can still correct it.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:21pm
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I believe that once the first half ends, the statue of limitations on this particular correctable error expires.
Why?
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:23pm
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I think the only reuirements are the first live ball, second dead ball thingy. While penalties dont carry over, CEs do.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:32pm
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I believe that once the first half ends, the statue of limitations on this particular correctable error expires.
In this case, the first half doesn't end until you shoot the second free throw.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:45pm
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In this case, the first half doesn't end until you shoot the second free throw.
I don't think that's true.

Consider:

B1 intentionally fouls A1, who makes the basket, as time expires for the 2nd quarter.

Officials mistakenly give A1 only one FT.

FF to the 2nd half. AP throw in for B, ball goes back and forth before B1 finally scores. Horn sounds, because A coach is requesting a C.E.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 04:05pm
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I don't think that's true.

Consider:

B1 intentionally fouls A1, who makes the basket, as time expires for the 2nd quarter.

Officials mistakenly give A1 only one FT.

FF to the 2nd half. AP throw in for B, ball goes back and forth before B1 finally scores. Horn sounds, because A coach is requesting a C.E.
Another halftime correctable error that actually happened. End of half last second shot. Trail rules it a 3. Throw in horns sounds. At halftime crew is talking and calling official says "I'm not sure I got that last 3 right." Partner says his foot was definitely on the line. Crew goes back out before 2nd half starts and changes it from 3 to a 2.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 04:09pm
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Another halftime correctable error that actually happened. End of half last second shot. Trail rules it a 3. Throw in horns sounds. At halftime crew is talking and calling official says "I'm not sure I got that last 3 right." Partner says his foot was definitely on the line. Crew goes back out before 2nd half starts and changes it from 3 to a 2.
That's not a correctable error, technically. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's just something the officials can correct at any time.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 04:19pm
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That's not a correctable error, technically. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's just something the officials can correct at any time.
If the books annotates the points incorrectly that's a bookkeeping error that can be corrected anytime.

The play I described falls under 2-10-1e: Erroneously counting or canceling a score
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That's not a correctable error, technically. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's just something the officials can correct at any time.
It is a correctable error....the officials incorrectly indicated how many points were to be recorded....CE time limits apply.
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That's not a correctable error, technically. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's just something the officials can correct at any time.
If the official signals correctly and the table gets it wrong, that can be corrected at any time. If the officials signal incorrectly, that must be fixed according to the restrictions of 2-10.
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