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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:12pm
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Failure to award a second free throw

Team A is on the line late in the first half for 2 shots. After the 1st shot the ball is rebounded and Team B gets it and takes a last second shot at the buzzer. After both teams are off the court the referees realize that the 2nd shot never took place.

I don't have my books with me at work, so how does the second half begin.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:16pm
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One free throw with the lane cleared.

AP throw in at the division line.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 04:30am
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One free throw with the lane cleared.

AP throw in at the division line.
Ok smart guy, so at which basket are you administering the FT?
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 07:05am
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Ok smart guy, so at which basket are you administering the FT?
Ohhhh, great question!
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 05:08pm
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Ohhhh, great question!

Years ago (mid-1990's) I had this exact same play (actually, we only shot the first two of three free throws) in the Ohio AAU Girls' 14U Qualifier to the Nationals (NCAA Women's Rules) but the ruling is the same. The only difference is that my partner and I realized that we had forgotten the third free throw during half time. We had the player shot her third free throw at her team's first half basket and then started the second half as if nothing unusual had happened.

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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:17pm
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Not a great CE official, but Id think we would award the merited FT lane spaces empty & go to the arrow.


What Snaqs said.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:19pm
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I believe that once the first half ends, the statue of limitations on this particular correctable error expires.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:20pm
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I believe that once the first half ends, the statue of limitations on this particular correctable error expires.
Pretty sure there's a case play on this that says the time frame to correct the error has not passed. You can still correct it.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:21pm
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I believe that once the first half ends, the statue of limitations on this particular correctable error expires.
Why?
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:23pm
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I think the only reuirements are the first live ball, second dead ball thingy. While penalties dont carry over, CEs do.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:32pm
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I believe that once the first half ends, the statue of limitations on this particular correctable error expires.
In this case, the first half doesn't end until you shoot the second free throw.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 03:45pm
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In this case, the first half doesn't end until you shoot the second free throw.
I don't think that's true.

Consider:

B1 intentionally fouls A1, who makes the basket, as time expires for the 2nd quarter.

Officials mistakenly give A1 only one FT.

FF to the 2nd half. AP throw in for B, ball goes back and forth before B1 finally scores. Horn sounds, because A coach is requesting a C.E.
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I don't think that's true.

Consider:

B1 intentionally fouls A1, who makes the basket, as time expires for the 2nd quarter.

Officials mistakenly give A1 only one FT.

FF to the 2nd half. AP throw in for B, ball goes back and forth before B1 finally scores. Horn sounds, because A coach is requesting a C.E.
Another halftime correctable error that actually happened. End of half last second shot. Trail rules it a 3. Throw in horns sounds. At halftime crew is talking and calling official says "I'm not sure I got that last 3 right." Partner says his foot was definitely on the line. Crew goes back out before 2nd half starts and changes it from 3 to a 2.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 04:09pm
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Another halftime correctable error that actually happened. End of half last second shot. Trail rules it a 3. Throw in horns sounds. At halftime crew is talking and calling official says "I'm not sure I got that last 3 right." Partner says his foot was definitely on the line. Crew goes back out before 2nd half starts and changes it from 3 to a 2.
That's not a correctable error, technically. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's just something the officials can correct at any time.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 07:46pm
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I don't think that's true.

Consider:

B1 intentionally fouls A1, who makes the basket, as time expires for the 2nd quarter.

Officials mistakenly give A1 only one FT.

FF to the 2nd half. AP throw in for B, ball goes back and forth before B1 finally scores. Horn sounds, because A coach is requesting a C.E.
In the OP, it seems to be that the free throw would be a part of the 2nd quarter. In your situation, (which I can't imagine happening) it would clearly be a part of the 3rd. And I don't guess it really matters one way or the other.
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