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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 02:01pm
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Question about #2 - how much contact was there? Was it the same contact as in #1?

Everyone understands that contact on the arm as the shot is being released is likely a disadvantage to the shooter, and is most likely a foul. But that same contact after the shot is released doesn't affect the shot at all, so it is more likely incidental, especially if the shooter is able to land normally.

If your question implies more than enough contact to warrant a foul, and you're simply asking about penalty enforcement, then "never mind". I just wanted to point out there are still a number of officials that call the same contact on the arm as a foul whether the shot is already gone or not.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 02:07pm
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Question about #2 - how much contact was there? Was it the same contact as in #1?

Everyone understands that contact on the arm as the shot is being released is likely a disadvantage to the shooter, and is most likely a foul. But that same contact after the shot is released doesn't affect the shot at all, so it is more likely incidental, especially if the shooter is able to land normally.

If your question implies more than enough contact to warrant a foul, and you're simply asking about penalty enforcement, then "never mind". I just wanted to point out there are still a number of officials that call the same contact on the arm as a foul whether the shot is already gone or not.
I agree and I have to explain this to at least two coaches a year. "but he got hit on the arm!" "it was after the shot and considered incidental contact"
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 02:09pm
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Question about #2 - how much contact was there? Was it the same contact as in #1?

Everyone understands that contact on the arm as the shot is being released is likely a disadvantage to the shooter, and is most likely a foul. But that same contact after the shot is released doesn't affect the shot at all, so it is more likely incidental, especially if the shooter is able to land normally.

If your question implies more than enough contact to warrant a foul, and you're simply asking about penalty enforcement, then "never mind". I just wanted to point out there are still a number of officials that call the same contact on the arm as a foul whether the shot is already gone or not.
Had a T a few years ago when a coach didn't like my no-call on just this scenario. Shot is gone, defender comes in late making contact with the wrist. Shooter some how gets knocked down by the wrist contact. I'm T, right in front of the coach. He starts screaming.

He stopped screaming when I blew my whistle.
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He stopped screaming when I blew my whistle.
See, it made the game better.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 02:21pm
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See, it made the game better.
Welcome back.

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The throw in spot is a small issue compared to the rest.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2012, 10:33pm
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Makes sense, I pictured top of key shot and landing inside the 3 point arc. Funny how I right away went to visualizing that.

So it's a Maybe on that one.
Remember that just because it is inside the 3 point arc does not automatically mean that it goes end-line. There are spots inside the 3 point arc that are designated to the sideline for throw-in administration. The imaginary line is from the elbow to the corner of each side of the lane (also the semi-circle goes end-line.

**See BillyMac's diagram. I didn't read all the way to the bottom before posting.**

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See BillyMac's diagram.
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"The Rocket Ship Diagram" © 2009, Back In The Saddle

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