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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 12:07pm
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Here's why. He was the trail, and on the required switch, would administer the free throws. He went to the end line to administer, and I hustled to the reporting area and back to the trail position.

When my partner tells me he has a foul, I trust him.
Do you make a habit of reporting your partner's fouls and vice versa? I don't understand why you would need to do this. Ever. Why was there a required switch when he was already the trail?
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 12:08pm
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Do you make a habit of reporting your partner's fouls and vice versa? I don't understand why you would need to do this. Ever. Why was there a required switch when he was already the trail?
2 person mechanics are to switch on all fouls.

That said....
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 12:17pm
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2 person mechanics are to switch on all fouls.

That said....
Be careful. That's not the NFHS mechanic on shooting fouls anymore. The caller always remains the trail, tableside if you're following NFHS mechanics.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 12:20pm
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2 person mechanics are to switch on all fouls.

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Be careful. That's not the NFHS mechanic on shooting fouls anymore. The caller always remains the trail, tableside if you're following NFHS mechanics.
That's what I thought.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 12:37pm
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Be careful. That's not the NFHS mechanic on shooting fouls anymore. The caller always remains the trail, tableside if you're following NFHS mechanics.
Which to me makes more sense than the IAABO mechanic (which is the old NFHS mechanic). Trail on FTs still goes opposite, and all fouls should warrant a switch.

I'm not sure, but I think Bainsey uses IAABO mechanics.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 12:39pm
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Which to me makes more sense than the IAABO mechanic (which is the old NFHS mechanic). Trail on FTs still goes opposite, and all fouls should warrant a switch.

I'm not sure, but I think Bainsey uses IAABO mechanics.
That would explain the switch, but not shortcutting the reporting of the foul. Seems sloppy to report your partner's foul just to avoid the extra steps.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 12:46pm
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That would explain the switch, but not shortcutting the reporting of the foul. Seems sloppy to report your partner's foul just to avoid the extra steps.
Yeah, I would rather skip the switch than relay a foul report.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 12:54pm
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I'm not sure, but I think Bainsey uses IAABO mechanics.
Correct, so we switch on all fouls. Actually, this wasn't an IAABO-assigned game, so technically, I didn't have to switch, but I like to keep the habits, just the same. (I got zapped on a recent evaluation for implementing a "summer mechanic" into an IABBO game. Not again.)

I not sure that reporting a partner's foul as a huge deal, especially at the level I was working, though I can easily see where that could get someone in a bind. Had the coach asked, "what did he do?", it may look a little silly for me to turn to my partner for the answer.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 01:09pm
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I got zapped on a recent evaluation for implementing a "summer mechanic" into an IABBO game. Not again.
You wouldn't get zapped for reporting your partner's foul?
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 01:11pm
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You wouldn't get zapped for reporting your partner's foul?
Who'd know it, besides my partner?

I'll check local listings, just the same.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 03:27pm
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I not sure that reporting a partner's foul as a huge deal, especially at the level I was working, though I can easily see where that could get someone in a bind. Had the coach asked, "what did he do?", it may look a little silly for me to turn to my partner for the answer.
That's exactly what was going through my brain when I first read your scenario.

And of course, if I'm working a level where it's no big deal to relay fouls then I'm likely to extend that to "it's no big deal not to switch".
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 03:42pm
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I'm working a level where it's no big deal to relay fouls then I'm likely to extend that to "it's no big deal not to switch".
Let's consider the motivations.

If you're doing NFHS mechanics, which require the reporting official to take the trail for the free throws, then you might say, "I had that one, so I'll report it."

If you're doing IAABO mechanics, which require a switch every single time, you might say, "you have to administer anyway, so I'll report it."

The "summer mechanics" around these parts usually mean switching on shooting fouls only (or often, when convenient, especially in running-time games), so a switch would have taken place just the same.
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