Simultaneous whistles

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Let's take a look at the end result.

On Friday night, I had the same thing happen as was listed in the OP (except I was the lead). Double whistle, my partner had a push on A-1, and I had a block on A-2. My partner and I conversed, and we determined that the A-1 foul he saw came first. Since he had to administer the free throws, I reported the foul.

I reported A-1. B-3 is shooting two.
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If your partner had a foul on A1 then your partner should be reporting it. Why did he HAVE to administer the free throws?

I can't think of a good why one official should be reporting another official's foul.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If your partner had a foul on A1 then your partner should be reporting it. Why did he HAVE to administer the free throws?

I can't think of a good why one official should be reporting another official's foul.

Here's why. He was the trail, and on the required switch, would administer the free throws. He went to the end line to administer, and I hustled to the reporting area and back to the trail position.

When my partner tells me he has a foul, I trust him.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Here's why. He was the trail, and on the required switch, would administer the free throws. He went to the end line to administer, and I hustled to the reporting area and back to the trail position.

When my partner tells me he has a foul, I trust him.

Do you make a habit of reporting your partner's fouls and vice versa? I don't understand why you would need to do this. Ever. Why was there a required switch when he was already the trail?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Do you make a habit of reporting your partner's fouls and vice versa? I don't understand why you would need to do this. Ever. Why was there a required switch when he was already the trail?

2 person mechanics are to switch on all fouls.

That said....

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

2 person mechanics are to switch on all fouls.

That said....

Be careful. That's not the NFHS mechanic on shooting fouls anymore. The caller always remains the trail, tableside if you're following NFHS mechanics.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Be careful. That's not the NFHS mechanic on shooting fouls anymore. The caller always remains the trail, tableside if you're following NFHS mechanics.

That's what I thought.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Be careful. That's not the NFHS mechanic on shooting fouls anymore. The caller always remains the trail, tableside if you're following NFHS mechanics.

Which to me makes more sense than the IAABO mechanic (which is the old NFHS mechanic). Trail on FTs still goes opposite, and all fouls should warrant a switch.

I'm not sure, but I think Bainsey uses IAABO mechanics.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Which to me makes more sense than the IAABO mechanic (which is the old NFHS mechanic). Trail on FTs still goes opposite, and all fouls should warrant a switch.

I'm not sure, but I think Bainsey uses IAABO mechanics.

That would explain the switch, but not shortcutting the reporting of the foul. Seems sloppy to report your partner's foul just to avoid the extra steps.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not sure, but I think Bainsey uses IAABO mechanics.

Correct, so we switch on all fouls. Actually, this wasn't an IAABO-assigned game, so technically, I didn't have to switch, but I like to keep the habits, just the same. (I got zapped on a recent evaluation for implementing a "summer mechanic" into an IABBO game. Not again.)

I not sure that reporting a partner's foul as a huge deal, especially at the level I was working, though I can easily see where that could get someone in a bind. Had the coach asked, "what did he do?", it may look a little silly for me to turn to my partner for the answer.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Here's why. He was the trail, and on the required switch, would administer the free throws. He went to the end line to administer, and I hustled to the reporting area and back to the trail position.

When my partner tells me he has a foul, I trust him.

Seems to me that if you're going to choose between a required switch and the official reporting his own foul; I would give up the switch first. Not sure I find either to be a particularly big deal, but I've personally never relayed a foul; but I've foregone plenty of switches where the trail calls a shooting foul.