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Old Sat Feb 04, 2012, 07:50pm
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If he wasn't shooting, you cannot penalize both. If he was shooting, don't be the first crew in your area to call this.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2012, 07:59pm
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If he wasn't shooting, you cannot penalize both. If he was shooting, don't be the first crew in your area to call this.
Also known as a pioneer call...pick one call and enforce it.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2012, 11:16pm
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This case play doesn't matter, but another one, much less well defined, does matter.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2012, 11:19pm
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If he wasn't shooting, you cannot penalize both.

Why not?
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2012, 11:52pm
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Why not?
Because the ball was dead on the first one. If the second one were intentional or flagrant, the original question would have even been relevant.
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 12:37am
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Because the ball was dead on the first one. If the second one were intentional or flagrant, the original question would have even been relevant.

The whistles were simultaneous. Why are they allowed to get together and decide which was first?
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 03:11am
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The whistles were simultaneous. Why are they allowed to get together and decide which was first?
Because the acts were two separate acts that didn't happen at the same time.

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Because the acts were two separate acts that didn't happen at the same time.
In the OP, maybe not, but hypothetically they could be. But, even then, it's okay to discuss and come out with a single solution if two signals were originally given?
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 12:12pm
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In the OP, maybe not, but hypothetically they could be. But, even then, it's okay to discuss and come out with a single solution if two signals were originally given?
Quit being silly. You KNOW that if it is for two separate acts, by rule, the ball is dead on the first one. So you MUST figure out which occurred first.

In the blarge situation that you're alluding to, it is one single act with two expressed judgments....neither of which could have possible occurred before the other AND such that neither official's judgement is allowed to override the other.
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