Foul question

End of game situation. team in lead broke away for a lay up. Def player pushed shooter in the back and knocks shooter down into the wall. I know this should be intentional but should the defended be ejected?

[just another ref]

Judgment call based upon the nature and severity of the act.

Shooter went down hard and could have injured the wrist???????

[deecee]

Originally Posted by big jake

Shooter went down hard and could have injured the wrist???????

On a regular foul or block charge players hit the deck and could injure something. This isn't a response that adds anything. Was it a hard push or a standard shove that is just an intentional versus flagrant. It's a had to be there scenario rather than all your ???????

[Welpe]

Could be intentional, could be flagrant. Depends upon the severity of the act.

I had this exact situation a couple of years ago and I judged it to be flagrant.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by big jake

End of game situation. team in lead broke away for a lay up. Def player pushed shooter in the back and knocks shooter down into the wall. I know this should be intentional but should the defended be ejected?

An intentional foul (which you say it is) does not carry an additional penalty of ejection / DQ.

[jTheUmp]

I've had this situation three times in the last 2 seasons...

I called all three intentional, and, in hindsight, one of them should've been flagrant. Totally depends on the severity of the act.

[silverpie]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

An intentional foul (which you say it is) does not carry an additional penalty of ejection / DQ.

To rephrase the question in better Officialese: the foul is at least intentional. Should it be flagrant?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

I've had this situation three times in the last 2 seasons...

I called all three intentional, and, in hindsight, one of them should've been flagrant. Totally depends on the severity of the act.

Or the frequency. Had a player once (in FB game) do this once in the second quarter, and once in the third quarter. I stuck him with an INT on the first play, my partner tossed him on the second one. Second was a bit harder than the first, but there was no way we were going to let him finish the game at this point.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by big jake

End of game situation. team in lead broke away for a lay up. Def player pushed shooter in the back and knocks shooter down into the wall. I know this should be intentional but should the defended be ejected?

At minimum, an intentional foul. Very possibly a flagrant foul.