Is this taught in camp?

[Toren]

On my off nights, I watch college games or I go to a local high school game.

Recently, I've noticed in several college games across several conferences, that after a made basket and with no pressure, the old L, new T will take three or four steps in front of the endline.

Basically they are almost out to the free throw line before the ball is inbounded. Then the new T basically walks with the count.

I actually do the opposite of this, I wait until the ball is inbounded and reaches the free throw line, then I can jog.

I'm thinking of trying it the way these college guys do it. Anyone have thoughts on this?

[JRutledge]

This has nothing to do with college actually, many officials do this either as a way to get up court and not get beat or they are just not called to the carpet on it. It is usually a sign of an older official that feels they cannot keep up if they stay or someone that is lazy so they do not have to run that hard to follow the play. Either way I would not make much out of it.

Peace

[APG]

Generally you only see that mechanic used by older officials that have a harder time keeping up with speed of the players or are afraid of being beat. There's no real reason to get ahead of the play like this.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This has nothing to do with college actually, many officials do this either as a way to get up court and not get beat or they are just not called to the carpet on it. It is usually a sign of an older official that feels they cannot keep up if they stay or someone that is lazy so they do not have to run that hard to follow the play. Either way I would not make much out of it.

Peace

Now that you mention it, I have seen it in older officials. But most of them seem able to run really well, it probably just saves on the pounding on their feet over the course of the whole season.

Thanks.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Toren

Now that you mention it, I have seen it in older officials. But most of them seem able to run really well, it probably just saves on the pounding on their feet over the course of the whole season.

Thanks.

I think it is more out of fear they will bet beat consistently up the court.

Peace

[tref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Either way I would not make much out of it.

I would not follow their lead though. They call it TRAIL for a reason. The DI guys on tv can get away with it because the coaches & decision makers are familiar with them. If we were to do this in the regular season, it would more than likely carry over to the summer. Then you're in camps trying to get hired -errrr- get better & that basically takes you off the list of candidates.
"Nice job, you're pretty close, come back again next year."
Which basically means, thanks for the check & you're welcome to write me another one next summer.

Originally Posted by Toren

Now that you mention it, I have seen it in older officials. But most of them seem able to run really well...

Who couldnt run well if they got a head start :-)

[Toren]

Originally Posted by tref

I would not follow their lead though. They call it TRAIL for a reason.

Now that I see the reasoning, I will not attempt this method.

thanks for the input guys.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Toren

I will not attempt this method.

Until you get where you're going, that is

Once you get there you can do whatever you want! I'm sure you've noticed no stop clock for OOB?

[Raymond]

John Adams does not like this practice and he has pointed it out on NCAA videos.

I saw it cause a problem in a NIT final about 5 years ago involving South Carolina.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by tref

Until you get where you're going, that is

Once you get there you can do whatever you want! I'm sure you've noticed no stop clock for OOB?

I've noticed this from lots of our esteemed referee's.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by tref

I'm sure you've noticed no stop clock for OOB?

Don't do college ball, but I thought the "stop clock" is not an NCAA mechanic?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Toren

Anyone have thoughts on this?

Just because the big dogs can get away with it doesn't mean you (or I) can.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Toren

On my off nights, I watch college games or I go to a local high school game.

Recently, I've noticed in several college games across several conferences, that after a made basket and with no pressure, the old L, new T will take three or four steps in front of the endline.

Basically they are almost out to the free throw line before the ball is inbounded. Then the new T basically walks with the count.

I actually do the opposite of this, I wait until the ball is inbounded and reaches the free throw line, then I can jog.

I'm thinking of trying it the way these college guys do it. Anyone have thoughts on this?

Toren:

This mechanic is what is called: "The bald old geezer position." And I resemble this mechanic, .

MTD, Sr.

[bainsey]

Interesting timing for this thread. I've started to do this myself.

I was watching some varsity officials to pick up some ideas, and I noticed that one would bounce the ball to a "thrower-in" from 5-10 feet in front of the endline on a BCELTI, when there's no defensive pressure. It never occurred to me to try that, so I've been doing it myself.

If the there's a throw-in violation, I'm still going to see it clearly, and it's not like there's a plane violation to see. So, what's the downside?

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

If the there's a throw-in violation, I'm still going to see it clearly, and it's not like there's a plane violation to see. So, what's the downside?

Why do it in the first place?

If you have a throw-in violation call to make, you're gonna have a coach questioning how you could even see the call when you're 5-10 feet off the endline.