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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:45pm
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Anyone have thoughts on this?
Just because the big dogs can get away with it doesn't mean you (or I) can.
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 01:19am
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Every college assignor and evaluator (camp or game) I've ever heard talk about the trail actually "trailing" the dribbler up the backcourt has said to do just that, as well.
Yep. We teach that TRAIL MEANS TRAIL. Stay behind the action, especially on inbound plays/ dribbling in the back court.
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 09:18pm
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On my off nights, I watch college games or I go to a local high school game.

Recently, I've noticed in several college games across several conferences, that after a made basket and with no pressure, the old L, new T will take three or four steps in front of the endline.

Basically they are almost out to the free throw line before the ball is inbounded. Then the new T basically walks with the count.

I actually do the opposite of this, I wait until the ball is inbounded and reaches the free throw line, then I can jog.

I'm thinking of trying it the way these college guys do it. Anyone have thoughts on this?


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This mechanic is what is called: "The bald old geezer position." And I resemble this mechanic, .

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Old Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:23am
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Interesting timing for this thread. I've started to do this myself.

I was watching some varsity officials to pick up some ideas, and I noticed that one would bounce the ball to a "thrower-in" from 5-10 feet in front of the endline on a BCELTI, when there's no defensive pressure. It never occurred to me to try that, so I've been doing it myself.

If the there's a throw-in violation, I'm still going to see it clearly, and it's not like there's a plane violation to see. So, what's the downside?
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Old Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:29am
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If the there's a throw-in violation, I'm still going to see it clearly, and it's not like there's a plane violation to see. So, what's the downside?
Why do it in the first place?

If you have a throw-in violation call to make, you're gonna have a coach questioning how you could even see the call when you're 5-10 feet off the endline.
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Old Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:40am
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Interesting timing for this thread. I've started to do this myself.

I was watching some varsity officials to pick up some ideas, and I noticed that one would bounce the ball to a "thrower-in" from 5-10 feet in front of the endline on a BCELTI, when there's no defensive pressure. It never occurred to me to try that, so I've been doing it myself.

If the there's a throw-in violation, I'm still going to see it clearly, and it's not like there's a plane violation to see. So, what's the downside?
It can become a habit and/or result in surprise pressure or token pressure that results in a steal/turnover and contested layup/dunk/OB back at that basket that you will have very little chance of ruling on accurately because you've been completely beaten on the play. And exactly what APG said.
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Old Sun Jan 22, 2012, 01:26am
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There it is, then. I have enough habits to break. I don't need to add another. Thanks.
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Old Sun Jan 22, 2012, 01:40am
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I call this the Tim Higgins mechanic. And I saw it in practice today when watching Big East highlights. I thought maybe he had retired.
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Old Sun Jan 22, 2012, 09:44am
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I was watching some varsity officials to pick up some ideas,
Sometimes, the best ideas you pick up are "what NOT to do."
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sometimes, the best ideas you pick up are "what not to do."
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Old Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:42am
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Snippet from the latest NCAA-M's bulletin:

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Little things. Since our last call, I have witnessed numerous occasions in-volving officials NOT paying attention to detail or “the little things”. I am not just referring to having 6 players on the floor, incomplete video reviews that satisfy pre conceived notions, but issues like illegal uniforms, being on the floor at the 30 minute pre game mark, if there are players on the floor, as the new trail, not being in position to officiate the ensuing throw in etc. The sloppiness the Regional Advisors and I have observed in games, invariably leads to bigger problems, if not in that game, in other games witnessed in-volving the same officials.
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