Buzzer Beater or not?

[JRutledge]

It looked like it was in his hand to me.

The only thing I did not like was the way the basket was waved off. IMO it should have been waved off immediately. It just looks like he was thinking about it while running over to the table. Other than that it looks like he got it right.

Peace

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It looked like it was in his hand to me.

The only thing I did not like was the way the basket was waved off. IMO it should have been waved off immediately. It just looks like he was thinking about it while running over to the table. Other than that it looks like he got it right.

Peace

Yeah and he left his partners on the floor while he bailed.

[APG]

Here's a clip of the play slowed down:



I agree that the C opposite didn't have to come across the court to signal the basket was no good...in fact at first, I thought he was going to his partner to ask if he had an opinion on the play.

[pizanno]

Score it. The closest I could get to freeze-framing had one hand on, one off with clock showing 1 sec still. Next frame advance had release and zeros. If there were tenths of seconds on clock, I'm guessing replay would show ball released before zeros.

Dude was guessing. And if you're guessing, count it. According to scoreboard, would've sent game into overtime.

Must've had a real hot date or some special dinner waiting for him...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by pizanno

Score it. The closest I could get to freeze-framing had one hand on, one off with clock showing 1 sec still. Next frame advance had release and zeros. If there were tenths of seconds on clock, I'm guessing replay would show ball released before zeros.

Dude was guessing. And if you're guessing, count it. According to scoreboard, would've sent game into overtime.

Must've had a real hot date or some special dinner waiting for him...

Are you a coach? Cause your last line is nothing other than a rat/coach thing to say.

Whatever call is made there is the right call. It's that close, especially without tenths on the clock. The only thing I agree on is that the covering official must call that right away.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by pizanno

Must've had a real hot date or some special dinner waiting for him...

Or maybe he just had the stones to make the right call.

Good call, ball was still in the right hand when the buzzer went. As the others have said, I would prefer to see an immediate whistle. Why are the C's partners hanging around looking confused? Get off the floor!

[mbyron]

Agree with the growing consensus: good call, bad mechanic.

[bob jenkins]

Can't tell from the slo-mo, because there's no sound. On the real speed, I'd count it, but it's close.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Or maybe he just had the stones to make the right call.

Good call, ball was still in the right hand when the buzzer went. As the others have said, I would prefer to see an immediate whistle. Why are the C's partners hanging around looking confused? Get off the floor!

Because they're wondering what the hell the C is going to call. I don't blame them at all.

[JugglingReferee]

First time watching it was on my iPod Touch. I waived it off.

Now watching it full screen on my desktop, I'm definitely counting it. I wonder if there wasn't an AV timing issue though, because I clearly had the buzzer sounding just after the ball hit the backboard.

Count it and let the excitement of overtime decide the winner!

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Because they're wondering what the hell the C is going to call. I don't blame them at all.

OK but the L is still standing there after the C signals and the camera pans back to him.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by pizanno

Dude was guessing. And if you're guessing, count it.

I believe this is true. I believe you must have definite knowledge that a release was late.

When I looked at the embeded video, I was certain this was good, but after looking at the OP's link, I'm not so sure. The audio synchs on these uploads play a huge role in these discussions.

[fortmoney]

You guys with plenty of experience - does the score influence your decision on this? You would think that if it really is a 50/50 call, the one that would result in a tie would be favored. That way the kids can still decide the outcome?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fortmoney

You guys with plenty of experience - does the score influence your decision on this? You would think that if it really is a 50/50 call, the one that would result in a tie would be favored. That way the kids can still decide the outcome?

The score has no influence on any decision I make in these situations. I call what I see and I try to get into a best position to make the call appropriately. Not sure what you mean by "That way the kids decide the outcome." The kids are deciding the outcome, I am just making the right call to the best of my abilities.

Peace

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by fortmoney

You guys with plenty of experience - does the score influence your decision on this? You would think that if it really is a 50/50 call, the one that would result in a tie would be favored. That way the kids can still decide the outcome?

No