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SCalScoreKeeper Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:44am

Buzzer Beater or not?
 
Ok all,
Here's a buzzer beater or not scenario from Saturday in So Cal.Basket was ruled on the floor as no good-What say the esteemed members of this board? Note that the game is worked in three man which is a little unusual for a regular season contest in January.

Boys' basketball: Price defeats Serra when officials disallow basket - latimes.com

stiffler3492 Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:59am

No basket. I think his left hand came off the ball before the buzzer, but his right hand was still on it.

JRutledge Tue Jan 17, 2012 02:03am

It looked like it was in his hand to me.

The only thing I did not like was the way the basket was waved off. IMO it should have been waved off immediately. It just looks like he was thinking about it while running over to the table. Other than that it looks like he got it right.

Peace

stiffler3492 Tue Jan 17, 2012 02:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 814107)
It looked like it was in his hand to me.

The only thing I did not like was the way the basket was waved off. IMO it should have been waved off immediately. It just looks like he was thinking about it while running over to the table. Other than that it looks like he got it right.

Peace

Yeah and he left his partners on the floor while he bailed.

APG Tue Jan 17, 2012 02:40am

Here's a clip of the play slowed down:

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I agree that the C opposite didn't have to come across the court to signal the basket was no good...in fact at first, I thought he was going to his partner to ask if he had an opinion on the play.

pizanno Tue Jan 17, 2012 04:19am

Score it. The closest I could get to freeze-framing had one hand on, one off with clock showing 1 sec still. Next frame advance had release and zeros. If there were tenths of seconds on clock, I'm guessing replay would show ball released before zeros.

Dude was guessing. And if you're guessing, count it. According to scoreboard, would've sent game into overtime.

Must've had a real hot date or some special dinner waiting for him...

Rich Tue Jan 17, 2012 07:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by pizanno (Post 814115)
Score it. The closest I could get to freeze-framing had one hand on, one off with clock showing 1 sec still. Next frame advance had release and zeros. If there were tenths of seconds on clock, I'm guessing replay would show ball released before zeros.

Dude was guessing. And if you're guessing, count it. According to scoreboard, would've sent game into overtime.

Must've had a real hot date or some special dinner waiting for him...

Are you a coach? Cause your last line is nothing other than a rat/coach thing to say.

Whatever call is made there is the right call. It's that close, especially without tenths on the clock. The only thing I agree on is that the covering official must call that right away.

Welpe Tue Jan 17, 2012 08:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by pizanno (Post 814115)

Must've had a real hot date or some special dinner waiting for him...

Or maybe he just had the stones to make the right call. :rolleyes:

Good call, ball was still in the right hand when the buzzer went. As the others have said, I would prefer to see an immediate whistle. Why are the C's partners hanging around looking confused? Get off the floor!

mbyron Tue Jan 17, 2012 09:13am

Agree with the growing consensus: good call, bad mechanic.

bob jenkins Tue Jan 17, 2012 09:15am

Can't tell from the slo-mo, because there's no sound. On the real speed, I'd count it, but it's close.

Rich Tue Jan 17, 2012 09:33am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 814153)
Or maybe he just had the stones to make the right call. :rolleyes:

Good call, ball was still in the right hand when the buzzer went. As the others have said, I would prefer to see an immediate whistle. Why are the C's partners hanging around looking confused? Get off the floor!

Because they're wondering what the hell the C is going to call. I don't blame them at all.

JugglingReferee Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:11am

First time watching it was on my iPod Touch. I waived it off.

Now watching it full screen on my desktop, I'm definitely counting it. I wonder if there wasn't an AV timing issue though, because I clearly had the buzzer sounding just after the ball hit the backboard.

Count it and let the excitement of overtime decide the winner!

Welpe Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 814164)
Because they're wondering what the hell the C is going to call. I don't blame them at all.

OK but the L is still standing there after the C signals and the camera pans back to him.

Loudwhistle2 Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:30am

Were it my call without replay, I would have counted the basket! Not saying the official was wrong, but that's my opinion.

BLydic Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 814106)
No basket. I think his left hand came off the ball before the buzzer, but his right hand was still on it.

Wow, either your vision or pc monitor is exceptional.


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