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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 01:36am
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Inadvertent Whistle??
Saw this tonight. Home team up by 5 with about 2 minutes left. Visitor makes a shot to cut lead to 3. After the basket by V, "tweet", timeout. Neither V nor H requested the timeout. V's coach made a hand gesture that was mistakenly judged to be a request for TO. Inadvertent whistle or charge the TO to V?
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 01:38am
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If the official made a mistake, it's an accidental whistle.

If the coach made a mistake, it's a timeout.
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 01:39am
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Inadvertent whistle.

I think it was the 2nd camp that I'd ever attended.

U18 game, two amazing teams. My P and I are doing well, and I grant a timeout late in the game. The coach goes a bit nuts and he and I sort it out. He yelled for a play to be run called "five out". lol
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 01:42am
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Inadvertant Whistle
Case Book 5.8.3 E (b) POI
In this Case Book play, it is referred to as "an accidental whistle."
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 01:49am
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In this Case Book play, it is referred to as "an accidental whistle."
Yeah, I think someone else said that, too.
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 01:52am
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Yeah, I think someone else said that, too.
Somehow, somehow, I I missed missed that that.. Sorry. Sorry.
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 01:57am
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Somehow, somehow, I I missed missed that that.. Sorry. Sorry.
Just yankin' yer chain.

Inadvertant whistle is football.

Accidental whislte is basketball.
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 02:03am
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Just yankin' yer chain.

Inadvertant whistle is football.

Accidental whislte is basketball.
Duely yanked, and duely noted. Happy New Year!
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 02:14am
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Case Book 5.8.3 E (b) POI
In this Case Book play, it is referred to as "an accidental whistle."
I have the 2010-2011 Case Book which refers to it as an "inadvertent" whistle. Sorry, looks like I need to get the latest and greatest. Inadvertent/accidental was my thought also. I spoke to the crew doing the game after the fact and they said that the TO had been granted so it had to be administered.
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 02:20am
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I spoke to the crew doing the game after the fact and they said that the TO had been granted so it had to be administered.
There's no rule support for that.

By rule, if a timeout is requested and granted, then it has to be administered.

If there's no request, then the official screwed the pooch and it shouldn't be charged.
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Old Sat Jan 07, 2012, 10:27pm
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Case Book 5.8.3 E (b) POI
In this Case Book play, it is referred to as "an accidental whistle."
But yet within the text of RULING for 5.8.3 E it reads...."In (b) an inadvertent whistle has occurred."

Same for 4.36.1 in the Rule Book.
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Old Sun Jan 08, 2012, 11:13am
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But yet within the text of RULING for 5.8.3 E it reads...."In (b) an inadvertent whistle has occurred."

Same for 4.36.1 in the Rule Book.
Perhaps, in the thoughts of some writers/editors of rules statements, an "inadvertant whistle" applies to violations, and/or fouls, whereas an"accidental whistle" would apply to the stopping of play to grant a request for a timeout, or other non-violation/foul situations.
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